Donald Trump’s Unique Style Transforms Israel’s Future In Less Than 100 Days.

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Elliot Chodoff: Hi, I’m Eliot Chodoff. I’m from Israel. I was just with Gene Valentino on the GrassRoots TruthCast, a great show, wonderful guy teaching important stuff to the American people. So please subscribe.

Gene Valentino: Hi everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Gene Valentino’s GrassRoots TruthCast. Remember this guy? This is Elliot Chadov. Hello, Elliot.

Elliot Chodoff: Hi, Gene. How are you doing?

Gene Valentino: Good, thank you. Elliot’s broadcasting with us on this recorded Zoom, uh, live from the northern region of Israel, within 40 miles of the Lebanon border.

Uh, hundreds of thousands of, uh, Russian made missiles continue to be pointed at Israel as, uh, the United States, uh, works behind the scenes under the new Trump administration. To help Israel secure a lasting peace.

Does that [00:02:00] mean we have to open up a Gaza resort under Donald Trump? Do we, do we turn around and let Israel take the lead? Does, do the Arabs come in and decide to say, Hey, wait a minute. Let’s, let’s look at that ourselves. We’ll do it. Not a, not the U. S. What’s the status of Israel? What’s the status of our remaining hostages?

What’s the status of the eviscerated Gaza Strip, the miles of bombed out area, leaving many dead? On October 7th, 2023, shy of two years ago, Israel launched a devastating A counter attack after the October 7th attack, killing nearly 1, 300 citizens, some American, most Israeli. Uh, this has resulted in one of the [00:03:00] biggest, uh, calamities, uh, since the Holocaust of World War II.

And we’re going to talk with Elliot about then and now. And what the future looks like for Israel right after this

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Gene Valentino: hi everybody. Welcome back to Gene Valentino’s GrassRoots TruthCast and welcome Elliot Chadoff israeli defense forces strategist and uh, advisor to the israeli government a reservist for decades with the Israeli defense forces and now with his own team working behind the scene to advise and consult Israel on matters of defense.

But really today, uh, he, his primary focus is to everyone’s still quite active on the Israeli defense reserve side. And, uh, he remains at the ready to assist in any of the missions. That are before him on any given day. Welcome [00:05:00] aboard, Elliot.

Elliot Chodoff: Thanks, Gene. Always good to be with you.

Gene Valentino: Well, Elliot, it was, um, it was October 9th, just two days after October 7th, uh, in, uh, 2023, when you and I had the privilege of getting together on a broadcast that ran at least an hour, and we, uh, gave the play by play which you articulated, uh, to the American public on this podcast, and we brought forward information which was devastating.

A crisis unto itself with 1, 300 people dead, some 100 up to maybe near 300 hostages at the time, more than half of which are dead at this point. And we’ll come back to the hostages in a second. Uh, you know, we talked about the billions of dollars that Barack Obama left on the tarmac, uh, to help, uh, Iran and Iran and, um, some of [00:06:00] the agents for Iran, the Houthis and Hamas, uh, build a war machine to fight Israel, the American dollars that were stupidly provided to Israel.

excuse me, to, uh, Iran to fight against Israel, uh, then became the crisis that was fostered and fermented over the years. And now today, jumping ahead to the surprise of many, Donald Trump becomes our president since I saw you on our last broadcast and, uh, replacing Joe Biden. And in less than two months, he has turned the tide on so many levels, one of which is, uh, presumably a long and lasting peace for Israel, uh, uh, not only with Iran, but maybe the rest, the rest of the other agents that were working on behalf of Iran, uh, I think become a message to the world that we have, uh, a game changer in office here in the [00:07:00] United States that’s about ready to make peace.

This would say you.

Elliot Chodoff: Well, it’s certainly a game changer. Um, I think that, let me start by saying this. If we look at President Trump’s approach from, let’s say from 30, 000 feet, he’s certainly moving in the right direction, uh, vis a vis Iran, vis a vis Israel’s immediate enemies. And let’s be clear, Israel’s enemies are America’s enemies.

Uh, Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, Uh, the Houthis, these are all groups, countries, organizations, scream death to America, and they mean it. Uh, they have attacked Americans in the Middle East and out. Uh, so it’s Israel’s immediate problem, but they’re America’s enemies as well. The previous administration was, I’m talking about the Biden administration, was pro Israel nominally.[00:08:00]

But also very, very waffling, very trying to be even handed. Uh, Churchill once famously said, I find it difficult to be even handed in the battle between the firefighter and the fire. Uh, there was the sense of well, you know, Israel has a right to defend itself, but it shouldn’t. It shouldn’t really do any harm in doing so.

You know what? You can’t defend yourself and fight an enemy without doing harm along the way. So on that level. The, the Trump administration is certainly, um, moving in the right direction is made very clear, uh, Hamas is evil. Hamas needs to be removed from, from any future in Gaza. Um, president Trump himself made a clear.

Declaration of ultimatum after meeting with some of the hostages that were, uh, that were released in, in, in the recent deals, uh, that, that calling on Hamas to release all the hostages or face the consequences, all hell is going to break loose and [00:09:00] all sorts of things like that. Now that now comes the however, after all of those statements, uh, he then followed it up by saying, well, you know, I’ve, we’ve given Israel what it needs.

Israel can do whatever, you know, whatever it needs to do. In other words, it’s not my problem. It’s your problem. And that kind of messaging, while not negative from an Israeli point of view, certainly puts America one step back, one step away from all of that. Um, and here, let’s be clear. I’m not, I’m not calling for American boots on the ground.

I’m, I’m, I’m a, uh, a firm believer in the, from an Israeli perspective of what we want from our friends and our friends number the United States pretty much exclusively. Now give us the wherewithal, supply us with what we need, cover our backs diplomatically, and quite frankly, uh, and I say this with all due respect and get out of our way, don’t, you don’t need to do our fighting for us.

Gene Valentino: There was, there was a clear, [00:10:00] I remember you saying that back then, you know, we’re talking about your country, a country with 10 million people or so. Uh, you had about 400, 000 reservists, uh, that were activated to bear arms and to come to the lines. And I took, I had a great concern when you said. Uh get out of the way and let’s let israel fight its own battle in one sense I’m glad to hear that in another sense I was concerned at the time because you were talking about this war won’t be over in months It’ll be over in days if not a few weeks and here we are approaching two years and it’s still underway And I’m asking, should America have stepped in?

Not that I wished we had. Uh, uh, but I didn’t think, um, behind the scenes could be or would be any more effective than it was for us behind the scenes with Ukraine. Your comment.

Elliot Chodoff: Okay, so first of all, one of the reasons, and certainly not the only one, [00:11:00] but one of the reasons that the war has been going on as long as it has, is because of pressure from the Biden administration essentially restraining Israel, both in terms of operations on the ground, for example, in going into Rafiq.

An operation that was delayed for months, giving Hamas a chance to, to dig in, uh, and, and better defend itself and the whole issue of the so called humanitarian aid, which we know today, or I should put it differently, we knew then we now have the evidence, the clear evidence today that Hamas was starved and on the verge of collapse and the humanitarian aid, which was sent into Gaza, which was taken by them, gave them the wherewithal to continue fighting.

So, once again, Israel has that capability, but here, let’s make a distinction. Talking about Hamas, talking about Hezbollah, Israel has the, has the capability to deal with it by itself. If we go up a level to Iran, and I’ll, I’m going [00:12:00] to add another sort of Spin into this. Turkey, a growing enemy, not only of Israel, but also of the United States, even though it’s a member of NATO and it’s using that NATO membership against Israel in the United States.

Uh, this is a level that Israel is less capable of dealing with on its own. We’re talking about on a higher international level, regional power, and even global power level. Uh, and their American intervention becomes all the more important, uh, here, even more so than with Hamas and Hezbollah, Iran, uh, Russia, and, and their allies, China, North Korea, Venezuela, are, are part of I call it a global axis, referred to as the axis of evil, uh, that are standing up against America and against American interests.

So this isn’t just an Israeli issue. It’s, it’s a, it’s a global American issue.

Gene Valentino: Yeah. And I referred to it [00:13:00] also as a deep state issue. I recall the concern is, is this undefined or ill defined. Ability to put your finger on the target the deep state and actors behind the scenes working Not only against israel, but america as well and It’s evidenced itself here in america While israel is about ready to come to some conclusion on so many levels with this war.

It seems that America now has its hands full uh as we open pandora’s box and seeing just how Corrupt and um, deep rooted some of the fraud and waste has been within our operations and divisions of our own government Uh as something that’s happened over decades and here comes this guy named donald trump and in less than two months He’s he’s done a a massive game change on national security and waste within government And the stock [00:14:00] market on a different level is having a little bit of an impact on it right now and Many investors including myself feel somewhat skittish about what’s just come down in terms of our investment capital Being put into the american economy.

I foresee bright sunny days ahead I, I don’t know though if I’m going to be on a Gaza resort strip like the French Riviera, uh, with Donald Trump Enterprises constructing the thing for 14 miles, or if it truly will be, uh, Egypt and many other Arabs, uh, stepping up to, uh, making this a bipartisan, uh, A cross national interest that might be welcomed by Israel to basically neutralize the threat that has been there since biblical times.

Yeah,

Elliot Chodoff: first of all, um, with all due respect to the, uh, the Gaza [00:15:00] Riviera, uh, I think that was

Gene Valentino: a Trump’s tongue in cheek, by the way, I just, yes, no, I, I,

Elliot Chodoff: I know, uh, but look, the, the Trump declared plan of depopulating Gaza and. redeveloping it. Uh, it was interesting. It had its diplomatic effect. In other words, it had a real shake them up effect.

And I think that was very important. But I think we should also be clear. One and a half million people are not leaving Gaza. And I can give you a whole bunch of reasons why not, but it’s not really

Gene Valentino: Jews or existing. Um, no,

Elliot Chodoff: no, I’m talking about the Palestinians who are living in the population. If for no other reason, the Hamas is not going to permit it.

No, we can ultimately. Uh, you know, down the road, degrade Hamas to the point where it’s not a serious threat to Israel. We’ll never be able to [00:16:00] degrade it. Okay,

Gene Valentino: well, I was told by you years ago, a year ago, that the only solution was the annihilation of Hamas, the complete eradication and, and, and, and while Trump is, you know, let’s, let’s face it.

Trump is. Negotiating. I don’t know why more people don’t see it when he comes out with some of these statements. But the fact remains, he’s doing it to create control over the negotiating posture. Of course. Going into event. Look what he did with Zelensky in Ukraine. Uh, blew up the conversation and now Zelensky just offered an apology.

Everything’s back on track with mineral rights, not confusing the issue, just making a, an example of how he operates to gain an impact. I don’t think. The presence of any Palestinians in that remain in the Gaza area should have an impact on what you’re doing, what you’re doing, um, in, um, and where you want to take [00:17:00] Israel as a nation.

Elliot Chodoff: Okay,

Gene Valentino: but,

Elliot Chodoff: but here, here’s the catch. It’s one thing to do what he did with Zelensky in the Oval Office when you’re dealing with a head of state with a Um, with government institutions, I’m talking about inside of Ukraine, fighting a war that requires American aid. It doesn’t work the same way with Hamas.

Hamas is a radical jihadi organization that does not follow the same calculating rules that a head of state does. Look, they, they say that they’ve won. You mentioned, you know, Gaza and rubble. Gaza has been not totally, but very, very heavily damaged, destroyed. And they’re Dan, the Hamas guys are dancing in the streets.

They’re saying it’s a great victory. We murdered nearly 1300 Jews. We’re willing to take all the losses in the process. So they killed 20, 000 of us in the, in the aftermath. They’re all martyrs. We’re [00:18:00] very happy. We’ll bring in more. In other words, the, the standard Western threat just doesn’t speak to these people.

Gene Valentino: Well, then who takes the ball and runs with it? Is Israel going to step up and eradicate Hamas, ergo Iran? Or is Israel, or is America going to do it? Or is there some sort of joint venture between the both of us to do it?

Elliot Chodoff: Okay, it has, first of all, it has to be a joint venture. Second, let’s, let’s make no mistake, Hamas exists prior to Iranian support for Hamas.

It’s independent. Okay. In other words, taking out Iran will certainly hurt Hamas. It will damage it, but it’s not the end of the story. Hamas is part of a broader jihadi operation that is not existentially dependent on Iran. It’s, it’s at the moment dependent on Iran. But taking out Iran hurts it. It doesn’t destroy it.

That’s number one. Number two, [00:19:00] ultimately, it needs to be eradicated as a, the terrorist army. And we, we’ve gone a long way, but we haven’t finished the job. But what I was starting to say before is that even when we get to the point where we have completely removed Hamas as a credible threat to Israel.

We’ll, we’ll find it much more difficult, if not impossible to remove it as a credible threat to the Palestinian population of Gaza. In other words, the bar of violence inside of Gaza to their own people is much, much lower than it is vis a vis Israel.

Gene Valentino: You mean, you mean to tell me the average Palestinian doesn’t see that the, the Hamas insurgents were using Palestinians as, uh, shields for their own protection, and they’re going to live in that duplicitous double standard?

Elliot Chodoff: If there were elections held today, Hamas would win.

Gene Valentino: I find that, well, who’s voting? I mean, I’m talking

Elliot Chodoff: [00:20:00] about in the Palestinian population, West Bank

Gene Valentino: and Gaza. I find that very hard to believe, but I’ll take your word for it. I also, you know what, let me, let me, let me, let me give you one, I think the total eradication of Hamas is absolutely necessary.

Elliot Chodoff: All right. It is. But the question is, how do you get down to the last, you know, the last one, let me give you one example. So you understand what I’m talking about. There are still hostages being held in, in. Gaza by Hamas, but they’re not all being held by Hamas. Some of them, and there were over 250 at one point, were being held and they were taken by Palestinian quote unquote civilians who came streaming into southern Israel after the Hamas attack started.

They were held in private homes. They were being used as slaves in private homes. There was not one single case since October 7th, 2023, where a single Palestinian Gaza aided a hostage to get out and to freedom. There were [00:21:00] cases where hostages actually escaped their captors and the people on the street returned them to Hamas.

In other words, the population, there wasn’t, if you’ll excuse the biblical reference, there weren’t the 50 righteous of Sodom and Gomorrah, which didn’t have them either. We’re talking about a population of nearly 2 million, and not a single case of an individual helping a hostage. What does that tell you?

Gene Valentino: Well, it tells me there’s a certain culture in this world that blindedly follows even the worst demonic regimes.

Elliot Chodoff: Have we mentioned Nazi Germany?

Gene Valentino: Yeah, well, there you go. That’s right. So

Elliot Chodoff: I don’t, when we talk about the eradication, I see the eradication of an organization. I see the smashing of a military structure of an organization, [00:22:00] but I don’t see the elimination of the absolute last thug.

By the way, using the Nazi analogy, and I think it’s an apt analogy, Nazis escaped Germany, they went to South America, they went to other places, they went to the Middle East, and they started new Nazi cells in the 40s and 50s.

Gene Valentino: Well, that’s true, that’s true. But how about the head of the snake, Iran? How about the regime change that’s now underway there, or attempted to be underway there?

Um, that is certainly a, I wouldn’t call it a diplomatic solution, but a, a non military approach in a sense. Um, what, what, What does Israel gain by that kind of approach?

Elliot Chodoff: Okay, so first of all, regime change is a wonderful idea. I don’t see it happening, but I’ll say that with a caveat, who can tell in these regimes?

I mean, they’re, they’re what, what I call brittle. They’re not fragile, but, but brittle, meaning that they look strong. They have a certain strength, [00:23:00] but a strike that hits them the right way can cause them to shatter. See notes, the Assad regime in Syria and how quickly it fell apart, uh, when it was hit, but nonetheless, this isn’t something that that can be predicted or projected.

It’s something we can hope for. And really not much more than that. I would say that if we’re looking from a. An immediate strategic point of view, the elimination of the Ayatollah regime in Iran takes a huge amount of pressure off the Middle East and the world. Because let’s remember, these guys are tied in, they’re connected, as I said before, with China, with Russia, with North Korea.

Uh, you know, there’s a network there and taking out one of the key players in that network hurts that network. It hurts Hamas, the Houthis. It’s devastating to Hezbollah. Here, let’s keep in mind, Hezbollah is different from the others. Hezbollah is a direct line [00:24:00] connection to Iran. It’s part of the Iranian system, if you will, which Hamas is not.

Hamas is a proxy. It’s an agent that gets supported by Iran. But Hezbollah was created by the Ayatollahs. Very, very big difference here.

Gene Valentino: Yeah, I’ve got a few more. I’ve got a few more pagers to sell them. That’s what I have.

Elliot Chodoff: I’ll, I’ll be happy to do the distribution.

Gene Valentino: Let’s work on that. Well, look, let’s, let’s agree to your point you’re making here, Elliot, that, um, You know, Saudi Arabia, I’m not going to say anything bad.

I do regret that they distanced themselves from Israel, uh, when, uh, it started to heat up. You guys were right at the verge, right on the cusp, right on the backside of the Abraham Accords, where, um, things were really moving in a very good direction with Saudi Arabia and Israel, and the world saw that. Yet they silenced and [00:25:00] retreated.

Where, uh, in direct proportion and degree as Iran and, uh, ha, uhthis and Hamas, uh, dialed it up against Israel. I, I, I see firsthand that now that’s beginning to change. Uh, I jokingly said the Arabs, uh, uh, Saudi and uh, the other Arabs might be interested in forming the Gaza Resort. They really might be. I mean, it might be a really good partnership with Israel and it might, uh, defang the serpent from the wrongdoings possibly in the future, it would at least open up the, the, the Israeli waterfront and, um, and, uh, the culture of Israel to, um, what do you really have it now as a diversity of cultures within your nation now?

So people fail to understand it. It’s not so isolated and, um, distanced from the rest of the world. Israel is quite the communicator in terms of its cultural, uh, sharing that goes on [00:26:00] with the rest of the world. I don’t understand, therefore, the vitriol and hate that the Iran folks, the head of the snake, and their agents have, their proxies, have, have felt the need to fight for.

Uh, I, it’s why I said in the beginning of this interview, That, um, the complete evisceration or annihilation of Hamas must occur for, um, for Iran, uh, to evolve its nation into maybe even an ally at some point down the road, certainly after America ensures the removal of nuclear threat. From Iran. Uh, folks, we’re talking to Elliot Chadoff, an Israeli defense, uh, strategist, decades involved in Israeli defense forces.

So proud to have met Elliot on, uh, as a consequence of some of his Jewish friends here in the panhandle of Florida that introduced him to me about two years ago, had him over to our hanger, go to www. [00:27:00] jeanvalentino. com. Check out some of our earlier episodes. You’ll see Ellie and I Elliot and I sitting side by side.

In front of my icon, a five, you get back to Pensacola. We’re putting you up in that airplane. We’re going to go do a golf coast, gulf coast, uh, uh, uh, tour of the gulf coast, gulf of America, uh, here in the United States. I am so proud to have him with me again. I think this is our fourth real, uh, interview and, uh, Elliot, um, let’s move.

The discussion to well, first of all, let’s wrap up the data as you see it on this atrocity of October 7th, 2023, as it stands right now, to the best of your knowledge, how many still considered hostages?

Elliot Chodoff: Okay. So the numbers that are being used now or something on the order of 60 total of whom something like [00:28:00] 22 to 24 are alive.

Gene Valentino: Now that number was over three, almost 300, uh, during the early days of the attack on Israel.

Elliot Chodoff: And I think it’s important here to emphasize that not only did they take hostages, not only did they murder hostages and they’re keeping their bodies. But they murdered people on October 7th and took their bodies hostage.

Well, we’re talking about a bunch of people who are beyond the evil. They’re ghoulish evil. Um, but, but those are the numbers that, that we’re working with. Um, I rely on, on Israeli intelligence for the numbers. And I think that, that they’re as accurate as they can be, but we also need to keep in mind that we’re dealing with Hamas, they can turn 22 live hostages into 22 dead hostages in about two minutes.

So,

Gene Valentino: and what

Elliot Chodoff: is that? So that’s kind of the snapshot.

Gene Valentino: And what is the threat at your northern border with, um, [00:29:00] uh, the, uh, with, uh, Hezbollah, Hezbollah and the, the missiles in Lebanon that are still pointing at you just 20, 30 miles to the south?

Elliot Chodoff: Okay, so in, in the course of the fighting over the year and certainly in the, the couple of months of the fall of, of more high intensity fighting, when the IDF actually went in and the Air Force stepped up, it strikes to incredible proportions.

First of all, we’ve driven Hezbollah physically away from the border. Now they’re trying to to infiltrate their way back in. As a matter of fact, we took out one of their local commanders today in an airstrike. Um, we, we, we have an agreement with Hezbollah. We also have an agreement with Hamas, where the ceasefire is part of the agreement.

And I want to clarify that because I think there’s a, there’s a lot of misunderstanding in terminology. There can be violations of the agreement that are not violations of the cease fire, but in [00:30:00] doing so, the cease fire becomes meaningless. In other words, Hezbollah, as part of the agreement, is not supposed to move into South Lebanon.

If they do move into South Lebanon, and we take out those infiltrators, We are actually enforcing the agreement, even though it looks like we’re violating the ceasefire. I don’t know if that, if,

Gene Valentino: if that’s

Elliot Chodoff: clear, I

Gene Valentino: understand what you’re saying. My concern is, is that there’s, um, this was supposed to be over quicker than it has been.

And I said earlier to you, if I can be. abrupt about it. This is turning into a Vietnam. And that’s what I feared.

Elliot Chodoff: No, no, it’s not. Not in Lebanon. Convince me. Okay. Convince

Gene Valentino: me

Elliot Chodoff: I’m wrong. Go ahead. Okay. So the border itself is quiet. Let’s start with that. The majority of their rocket threat, the heavy rocket threat has been eliminated by the Air Force.

That was done in dribs and drabs over the course of the year [00:31:00] after October. 7th, and then in the high intensity fighting of the fall, September, October. Uh, of 2024. So, yes, they still have rockets, but they don’t have the ability to threaten the damage and destruction that they did two years ago, which was a major concern for Israel in going after them.

We have driven them completely out of the border area and dismantled a good deal of their infrastructure. I don’t think we’ve gotten it all because some of it is hidden, but their tunnel systems, their arms warehouses. Um, and the like, so what is

Gene Valentino: the, what is the triggering event, Elliot, that says I’ve had enough, I’ve taken enough, they’ve played their hand one time too many with us.

We’re going to lose some living hostages, but this is, this is the great, that’s Hamas,

Elliot Chodoff: that’s Hamas, Hezbollah isn’t holding hostages.

Gene Valentino: Well, I meant to say Hamas. [00:32:00] Okay. The attack is precise, it’s targeted, and it should be effective against the elimination of Hamas. If that’s the case, what are we going to do to Look, do you really believe the remaining 30 hostages are coming back to us?

Elliot Chodoff: All of them? No, I don’t believe so. And, and I’ll tell you why. I think that as, now we’re moving back to Gaza and Hamas, we were talking about Hezbollah. As the number that they’re holding decreases, the value of the remaining ones to them goes up. Very simple economics. Supply, you know, goes down, price goes up.

There’s going to be a point, and I don’t know what the number is, and I don’t want to just throw a number out there. But there’s going to be a point where they’re going to demand far, far, far beyond what Israel is willing to pay to get back those last few, whatever number they are.

Gene Valentino: We had some hostages recently that we didn’t pay a dime for that came to us [00:33:00] directly, as opposed to the billions that Biden put down on the tarmac and Obama.

That got us nothing. In fact, they it hurt Israel in the process. That’s what’s offensive here.

Elliot Chodoff: That’s for sure. But remember, you got those hostages back from countries.

Gene Valentino: Yes.

Elliot Chodoff: There’s a big difference. There’s a big

Gene Valentino: difference. Okay. So your

Elliot Chodoff: leverage, your leverage on a terrorist organization on a radical jihadi terrorist organization is much, much less.

These are people who are willing to take damage. They’re willing to, to, to lose people in huge numbers. And under those circumstances, the threat carries less weight. I’m not saying it has no value, but it carries much less weight than let’s say, threatening any rock over an American hostage or Venezuela over, over American hostages, where the threat to the regime and to the country is credible and damaging, and they, they want to be [00:34:00] able to hold on these guys.

They’re living in tunnels. They’re crazy. They’re living

Gene Valentino: in their own tunnel. But when is the, what is the straw that’s going to break the back? When is enough, truly enough, and we say, okay, this is the price of war. We’re taking out Hamas in total, and we lose 30 good human Israeli American lives in the process.

Elliot Chodoff: Right. So first of all, I don’t think it’ll be 30 because I think there’ll be some sort of interim deal that gets some of them out.

Gene Valentino: Okay,

Elliot Chodoff: but okay, but whatever the number is, so every one of them is a tragedy to have to lose. I can’t give you a time answer because it’s way too dynamic. I can give you a situational answer when the intelligence comes in and our intelligence is on top of these things.

Not perfect. Nobody’s perfect. They’re not that they’re not budging anymore. The government is going to have to make a decision and say, okay, [00:35:00] I always like to use the term that’s in the book, the Godfather. It’s not so much used in the movie. Nobody can reason with these people anymore. And when you’ve reached the end of being able to reason with them, then you have to go, go full scale violence.

Will it happen in the next week or two or three or four? Probably not. Uh, remember the Americans are involved now, and including a character who I have no idea how he managed to insinuate his way into this business, Adam Buehler, um, whose best friend and advisor is a Palestinian, um, and who suddenly broke a decades old Yeah, so we’re Rule and law in the United States not to negotiate directly with terrorists.

And he met with Hamas. This is a guy who was appointed by president Trump. I don’t know how this happened. Uh, and he came out and said, you know, they’re not such bad guys. They’re, they’re, they’re pretty, they’re pretty good guys. It’s like, seriously, [00:36:00] Hamas. Um,

Gene Valentino: so there’s, there’s now again, we’re talking Donald Trump.

Is this not a strategy? He also said he’s good bosom buddies with, uh, with, uh, uh, Putin, right? I mean, he’s loosening, but he’s not creating attention. He’s loosening the tension.

Elliot Chodoff: Putin is a head of state saying that Hamas terrorists are good guys just like us. Of course not.

Gene Valentino: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It’s a whole different, a whole different deal.

I just throw out to your attention the fact that this is Donald Trump loosening the, the grid. I get it. To get to first base, he’s gotta, he’s better off at first base than he is at the plate. So if he’s at first fair enough base, he can do better for Israel and the world may be, look, it’s his style, James.

It’s his style.

Elliot Chodoff: I, no, I understand that. But first of all, this wasn’t Donald Trump. This was a third level down. Emissary that was sent number one, number two, you know what, [00:37:00] with all due respect to negotiating skills, and I’ve done a little negotiating in my day as well. This is not real estate negotiation.

Gene Valentino: That’s right.

Elliot Chodoff: This is something in an entirely different level with different parameters, different dimensions. Uh, you’re not sitting in a boardroom. But

Gene Valentino: you have to admit his success in the time frame we’re looking at is geographically Biden administration.

Elliot Chodoff: I, I’m not arguing that, but you know what, but, but you, you know, you succeed until you fail, right?

Uh, there are things, there are things that you don’t do. And one of them is, say, Hamas terrorists are really good guys.

Gene Valentino: Look,

Elliot Chodoff: look,

Gene Valentino: any normal

Elliot Chodoff: person knows that’s not true. Okay, but, but here’s a guy who said it in a series of interviews. Look,

Gene Valentino: look, if I’m trying to talk to you and I really hate your guts. I have nothing to gain by [00:38:00] swearing at you.

Elliot Chodoff: No, but, but still, you know what? You, so you don’t get up in an interview and say, I know the Israelis don’t like it, but we’re not Israel’s agents. We have our own interests. Now, we all know that that’s true.

You don’t, you don’t state that.

Gene Valentino: Look, as a public, as a public policy, if Israel, if Israel in the United States are the friends we know we are not to mention extremely good allies, then you’re going to tolerate me saying some things to get you to first base. I am, I am not going to say some things that might, I’ll tolerate lots of

Elliot Chodoff: things, but I can, I can still criticize them from a professional perspective.

Gene Valentino: Of course you can. Of course. But we have the same enemy. We’re not pointing the guns at each other.

Elliot Chodoff: Can you, can you imagine an American emissary sitting with bin Laden after 9 11 and coming out and saying, you know, he [00:39:00] was, he’s not such a bad guy. He serves a decent cup of coffee.

Gene Valentino: Of course not. I, you know, I understand that, but admittedly.

Ben Laden didn’t have any third parties in his sitting at his side that he could rely on at that point in this case You don’t have of course he did

Elliot Chodoff: he had Pakistan again. Look all I’m saying Look, well, all I’m all I’m all I’m saying is that in in international relations You’ve got to keep in mind And this is by the way, this is something that the Biden administration failed at miserably as well.

When you’re negotiating a business deal, the only audience to the negotiation are the people who are sitting around the table in that boardroom, unless somebody leaks it to the outside, when you’re dealing on the international level. And here we are talking about the international level, [00:40:00] when you make a statement like Israel basically can go stick it because we’re going to do whatever we want.

How is that different from what the Biden administration said? And now my key, the key question is, what are Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, Russia, Turkey hearing when that statement is made? How are they parsing that statement?

Gene Valentino: Yeah, it might be that was the intention, just like it was a week ago when Donald Trump had a muzzle Zelensky for going over the line and saying some things.

That he should not have said there was a discussion behind closed doors and there was a sweet coffee sipping Ribbon cutting feeling that was supposed to have occurred in the Oval Office with Trump that did not [00:41:00] occur and That’s when Trump you took him on in the national scene and you saw we the world we agree And you saw both sides of that Donald Trump negotiation in action.

But

Elliot Chodoff: here you’ve got an exact opposite situation. Israel is being told, you sit this one out. We’re negotiating this deal for the good of America. We want to get our, there’s one living American hostage. We want to get him out. He’s an Israeli American, American Israeli. We want to get him out. The rest of them, well, we’re going to try to get them too.

No matter what, we, we’re going to make the deal and you’re going to pay the price for it.

Gene Valentino: Do you believe that at least this Trump administration version of America would do anything that hostile to hurt Israel? I, I do believe that a

Elliot Chodoff: week ago, I wouldn’t have believed it a week ago, but when I hear an American negotiator say, well, we’re going to work out a five to [00:42:00] 10 year ceasefire with Hamas, we think it’s a great idea.

Excuse me?

Gene Valentino: Well, do me a favor, live up to your word and eviscerate Hamas as you first said had to happen. If that’s the case, that’s fine. You really don’t care what America’s thinking anyway. Go and finish the job. If you ask us to stand down and stand down to let you handle it, go handle it and take them out completely.

Okay. I’ll be right there at your side, brother.

Elliot Chodoff: Will America cut us off from arms and munitions like the previous administration did? They didn’t

Gene Valentino: cut off Ukraine when we had much more, much less interest. This is my concern. We have a tight, the best alliance we have in greater Europe. Is Israel and, and, and, and, and, and it, it supersedes whatever we’ve been giving to a non NATO member called Ukraine.

That’s what’s driving me crazy. [00:43:00]

Elliot Chodoff: Fair enough. All I’m saying is that if America is going on its own, behind Israel’s back, trying to negotiate some sort of a deal that Israel is going to have to pay the price for, and when it is, when the Israeli liaison, the minister, Ron Dermer, calls him on it, I’m talking about Buehler, not, not Trump and Buehler says, so he’s upset.

Who cares? I’m sorry. You don’t speak that way about an ally when you know you’re going behind their backs. This is not what you’re describing. This is not a Zelensky parallel.

Gene Valentino: Respectfully,

Elliot Chodoff: it’s the inverse of

Gene Valentino: Zelensky. Well, what you’re describing respectfully is exactly what frosted Zelensky a little bit.

He had the sense that America was going a little bit behind his back. And it wasn’t look, we were coming in. This wasn’t the sense,

Elliot Chodoff: but this isn’t a sentence. This is a fact.

Gene Valentino: [00:44:00] Is America going to take the lead and fight?

Elliot Chodoff: America is meeting directly with Hamas leaders in Qatar.

Gene Valentino: Well, my argument is that we did the same in the context of Ukraine.

But America has relations with Russia. Well, of course we do. It’s against American

Elliot Chodoff: law.

Gene Valentino: It’s

Elliot Chodoff: against American law to meet directly with Hamas leaders.

Gene Valentino: Well, in, from my point of view, it’s in the time of war, we were trying to stifle it, not exacerbate it. But, your point remains valid. We can stand down, provide you what you need, and go wipe them out.

Because, all I know is one thing, on October 7th, they killed 1, 300 people, Israel didn’t. And as a result that so so there’s no argument. We’re on your side there. We’re talking a matter of style.

Elliot Chodoff: There’s a there’s a ceasefire in effect. There’s a ceasefire in effect [00:45:00] now that was brokered and. Strong armed by the United States between Israel and Hamas, the strong arm was used on Israel by with cough on Netanyahu and very and stated openly and proudly by the administration, we twisted Netanyahu Netanyahu’s arm to accept the ceasefire.

So make up your mind Gene. We’re going to ceasefire now because America forced it.

Gene Valentino: mind is made up. I want the Israeli state protected. What I don’t want So should Israel

Elliot Chodoff: tell America now take your ceasefire and shove it. We’re going alone?

Gene Valentino: Well, I don’t think we ever did say that. What I heard was Israel wanted to fight its own battle.

So now

Elliot Chodoff: Yeah, so America stepped America stepped in, granted under Biden to begin with, but then Whitkoff, who’s Trump’s guy Came in and he is the ultimately the one who twisted Israel’s arm to [00:46:00] accept the terms of the ceasefire.

Gene Valentino: All I’m saying is I want peace as badly as you do, but if you have a way, if you have a way of annihilating the enemy, have at it and I’ll be the strongest supporter you can ever rely on the bad behavior. Huh?

Elliot Chodoff: Yeah. No, I trust you, but you’re not the one who signs off on the arm supply.

Gene Valentino: Oh, damn it. You should let me sign off on that damn thing.

Well, this, this war would have been over a long time ago. I’d be on there. You got to be on the Gaza Strip with my Tia Maria drink.

Okay, folks, we’re having a great conversation, a spirited conversation with Elliot Chadoff, Israeli Defense Forces strategist, who Israel military and administration relies on. You’re looking at him right here with me on Gene Valentino’s [00:47:00] GrassRoots TruthCast. A plug for me. First, please go to www dot.

GeneValentino. com. Please subscribe to our podcast and Elliot, tell them about your website and how they can find out more about you.

Elliot Chodoff: Okay. I also have a podcast. It’s, it’s called conflict uncovered. Uh, you can find it on Spotify or any, anywhere you go to get your podcasts. Once again, conflict uncovered.

Uh, we’re, we only started a few months ago. There are 38 episodes out. Um, More coming and basically what I try to do is, is unpack, uh, what’s going on essentially, you know, similar in style to what, what we’ve been talking about today. My, my broadcasts are shorter. I, I try to keep them in the 20 minute range so that people can pick them up in a commute and be done by the time they get to work.

But, um, basically it’s not news. In other words, I’m not trying to, to. Keep up with the media in terms of news, but rather two, three, four [00:48:00] days after an event, let’s try to break it down and really understand what’s going on. So that’s

Gene Valentino: once again, conflict uncovered. And one thing Elliot, I have in common is when I was county commissioner here in the county of panhandle of Florida, uh, Elliot was at some point at the army war college, uh, here in the United States.

I think you were

Elliot Chodoff: my papers, my papers, not. Not, not myself personally. Stuff that I wrote was, was on the reading list. On the War

Gene Valentino: College. Yeah, I attended the War College and had the privilege of sitting next to a Mr. Schwarzkopf, General Schwarzkopf at the time before he retired and ultimately passed away.

Great guy, great patriot, and a man that Eliot would appreciate. A very strong military strategist, very much in keeping with what I see Eliot is all about. Eliot, let’s switch gears and talk about The, uh, the massacre in Syria. Can you describe it? It’s [00:49:00] geometrically proportional and just as bad. Who is being massacred?

What’s being, what’s happening in the state of the governance of Syria itself?

Elliot Chodoff: Okay. So the, the story, which is not true is that opponents of the regime are being killed because of clashes, ethnic political clashes, uh, that are going on. What’s happening, in fact, is that predictably and Israel and myself, I can’t say predicted on the, you know, on the, on the prophecy level of this was going to happen, but predicted in the, in the sense of the new regime in Syria is an outgrowth of Al Qaeda.

Let’s let’s watch what happens when Al Qaeda take types, take over a country. And needless to say. Al Qaeda, which is, which is a hardcore jihadi Wahhabi based [00:50:00] organization, as are all the other terrorists around, uh, look upon non Muslims and even Muslims who don’t follow their brand as heretics, as infidels, and who need to be slaughtered.

And what they’re doing now in the coastal regions of the Alawites and, and, and to Christians in Syria, and we don’t have precise up to date numbers where we’re talking well in excess of a thousand, uh, over the last three, four days, um, is that they’re going in and simply murdering People in the streets, uh, shooting.

I’ve, I’ve seen reports of Christians being crucified. Uh, this is not putting down civil unrest. This is the full scale expression of Al Qaeda type jihadi. Remember, we remember ISIS in Iraq and Syria and some of the stuff that they did. That that’s who we’re, we’re facing and who we’re dealing with. [00:51:00] When Jolani took over from Assad, it’s funny.

The last few days of Assad, I gave an interview and I said, you know, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but we may someday look back upon the Assad days as the good old days in Syria. And Assad was far from, you know, a good old boy. He was a murdering savage. And here we have this. This new regime under Giuliani, who was touted as the great savior of Western liberal democracy in, in, in, uh, in the Middle East, visited by all sorts of leaders.

The Biden administration lifted a 10 million bounty that was had been American bounty that had been on his head. Uh, because, you know, he, he’s, he’s it, he’s, he’s the future. And Israel at the same time said, you know, we’re not so sure we’re going to take out a lot of their capabilities. Uh, because we don’t want a, an al Qaeda jihadi army facing us on our border [00:52:00] and the world went crazy and said, Oh, is the Israeli aggression and things like that?

It turns out we were right. Um, and here we’re now facing, uh, a northern border east of Lebanon, obviously of. A murderous Al Qaeda, ISIS type jihadi operation backed by Turkey. Erdogan, of course, being also a radical Islamist in his own right.

Gene Valentino: Do you see some hidden alliance with Putin, Russia, and this Jelani?

Do you see something surfacing in that area? Okay, so at the moment,

Elliot Chodoff: no. Let’s zoom back one step. Another thing that’s going is never one thing, right? Another thing that’s going on in Syria is a centuries old imperial conflict between Russia, Turkey, and Iran, what was once Persia. And [00:53:00] there, the three of them are jockeying for position.

At the moment, Turkey has the upper hand. But Russia still has military bases along the coast. As a matter of fact, some of the people who were threatened have fled into the Russian military bases because they will protect them against the jihadis. The Iranians aren’t trying to negotiate with the Giuliani government, uh, to, to regain a foothold for themselves.

It’s too soon to tell this is, you know, think of this as, um, you know, negotiation for position while it’s going on. What are you offering me? What can I offer you? What are the threats? Um, so Turkey, Iran, Russia. Working there, trying to gain at least a position, if not the dominant position, and that’s that’s ongoing.

It’s it’s it’s as we speak. Uh, so I’m not going to predict an outcome there right now. Turkey has the upper hand. [00:54:00]

Gene Valentino: And as we close in the next 5 minutes or so, your take on the status of the, um, of the potential conflict here between Hamas and Hamas. and Israel and what you predict America’s role is or should be in that conflict.

Elliot Chodoff: So stage one, as many hostages as possible have to be gotten out. That’s, that’s clear, uh, for humanitarian reasons. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s a human value. It’s a Jewish value. It’s an Israeli value. And here I have to add, and this is important, it happened on our watch. In other words, the IDF was meant to protect the citizens of Israel.

It failed on October 7th, and we have to somehow make good on that failure, if you will, as best we possibly can. At one point or another, one of two things is going to happen. Either the hostages will be gotten out. Or as we said earlier, [00:55:00] we’re going to reach a point to say, that’s it. We’re not getting any more of them out, whatever number is left.

And at that point, two days, two weeks, two months, two years, I see it. No, I see months, months, but a lot of that has to do with American involvement. A lot of it has to do with. How deeply America gets into negotiating how enamored America gets into negotiating here. I have to say this isn’t about America, you know, when you start negotiating negotiation, negotiating has its own kind of, you know, thing to it.

Um, and yeah, it does, you know, and no, you know what I’m talking about? And we’re close. We’re close. We only have to close 2 more issues. Um, and then, you know, you close 1 and now there are 3 issues. We only have to close 3 more. And so on. So you, you can’t put an absolute deadline on it. Uh, Trump did and he, and, and I agree with you.

I think he did it to shake things up, not because of, of believing that it was going to happen that way. [00:56:00] But here we also have to be careful when you set an ultimatum and you don’t carry through on it, you lose some credibility. And if America goes into this and says, you know, we’re going to keep negotiating and keep negotiating and Israel, you got to hold off because we have negotiations.

Uh, it could take months. On the other hand, if America turns around and says, you know what, there’s no talking to these guys, we’re just going around in circles. It could be, I still, I don’t believe it’ll be less than a month or two, but it could be something on that order. Um, let’s also keep in mind that there is weather involved.

We’re still in the rainy season. Spring is a better time to, to go into, into Gaza. And we have a new chief of staff of the I. D. F. just came into into office last week. He’s got to get his sort of people lined up properly, get his doctrine clear and down. So I think we’re looking at, as I said, a month. Or two, I would guess closer to two before things sort of [00:57:00] move into an into the next phase.

The next phase, I think, is going to be a full scale operation against Hamas. It’s what’s left of them.

Gene Valentino: And then once that’s taken care of, I’ll be an investor in this. Uh, Gaza resort that, uh, some consortium of people come into and I,

Elliot Chodoff: and I, and I’ll be looking forward to being a guest in your suite there.

Gene Valentino: Well, Hey, by the way, I wouldn’t mind coming to Israel and I should plan that soon to do a more in depth targeted, uh, report, uh, on some of the, uh, Some of the resulting, uh, consequences of the discussions we’ve had today. Uh, I’d like to see how they evolve and maybe do a wrap up report. I see the end in sight, which was not true 19, 20 months ago.

Uh, when, um, Uh, on October 7th when the world changed, the world changed as a result of a crisis in the Gaza Strip, uh, [00:58:00] Elliot, any final closing thoughts in 30 seconds?

Elliot Chodoff: No, I think, I think we covered it reasonably well. And just I’ll, I’ll, I’ll extend the invitation, come to Israel, be happy to take you around and show you all the fine points.

Well,

Gene Valentino: I’m not bringing my plane across the pond. Oh, well, don’t forget it But I promise you we’d have a good time and I would be honored to have a good time with you and your family and Uh your colleagues that are working so hard One of the things I envy and I hope america does it in the future is put together a mandate Uh one mandate that government should impose and that’s a time served in in the military You all do it in israel.

It certainly broadens your perspective. It sets into motion a national discipline and um A culture that extends to those who probably would not have otherwise been exposed to uh, and is yes An israeli culture and by the way, it’s not just jews. Is it [00:59:00] you’ve got everybody in that Yep. In that, in that military force.

I think that’s. Jews,

Elliot Chodoff: Christians, Muslims, Druze, Circassians, if you’re an Israeli citizen. Uh, Jews are Jews and Druze are obligated to serve by law. This can volunteer, uh, and and they do in varying numbers. And we’ve seen increased numbers of Christians, Christian Arabs volunteering over the past few years.

Yeah. And once you’re in, you’re you’re equal. I have a. A colleague, um, officer who’s a, an Arab Muslim now, the better one of their own sort of class. I’m talking about what very often referred to as Palestinians in Israel, not by Israelis, but by outsiders. He’s from a village actually not far from here and he has top secret clearances.

Uh, in other words, the fact that [01:00:00] that he’s an Arab Muslim with an Arab Muslim name, he goes through the exact same sort of line that everybody else does your, if you’re qualified, you’re promoted, and if you pass the clearances, you get them and there’s no, no question, no discrimination on that.

Gene Valentino: You know, it’s march 11th 2025 and I had hoped on this day Based on what was telegraphed from the american government and donald trump that we would have had a sense of uh, what the military action would be either by israel, uh, bb netanyahu and And the defense forces, uh, or by the united states or some combination of both Against hamas in particular if not iran in General, especially as it pertains to the Uh, intent of America to see Iran denuclearized.

Nuclear ties, I guess, uh, the the Iran nonetheless [01:01:00] needs to remove any threat of nuclear nuclear, uh, capability and I thought that that was, um, coming and it’s why I scheduled this, uh, interview for this time thinking something may have happened by now. It did not. And, uh, but it just still gave you and I the chance to have a spirited conversation.

Uh, yes, yeah. Uh, that we are entitled to have with each other based on a friendship that’s developed over the two years. Absolutely. And, um, uh, I think without dispute, America’s support for Israel remains the strongest in the world. We’ve watched other influences take hold in the EU and throughout Europe in General.

That did not happen with Israel. Israel stayed strong against most odds and, uh, so did America’s support for Israel and Israel’s support for America. Uh, we’ve got our issues here in the States, Elliot, [01:02:00] you’ve seen on the news how, uh, the Palestinians and the anti Semites have tried to infiltrate many of the colleges and universities and take stronghold against there.

We’ve got our act to clean up too in terms of how America funds many of these institutions. And, uh, the elimination of funding for these institutions is where it starts. And, um, and, uh, getting strong on, uh, visas and breaches in the visa and sending people out of the nation for their wrongdoings is something that’s now evidenced itself, and we should see more of it, Elliot Chadoff.

Thank you for being with me today on the GrassRoots truth cast. Always a pleasure. And thank all of you for joining us on Gene Valentino’s GrassRoots TruthCast, another exciting episode over this hour, uh, involving a lot of the current status of, of Israel and Israel’s, uh, uh, handling of Hamas. [01:03:00] And, uh, the anti Semitism in General, uh, in the greater Europe.

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