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uh people from the clergy. We do things from all aspects of life and try to stay

attuned to where things are and where they’re going. We’ve had a very busy week. We recording now January 21st,

2026. And oh boy, uh talk about drinking out of a fire hose, man. We’ve had more

events going even as this recording is underway. Uh but we’ll come to that with

our special guest. Our guest this week is Bob McCuin, former US Congressman,

six terms, 12 years. Hey Bob, how you doing? It’s great to be with you, Jane. Thank

you. I’m doing great. our paths have crossed since we uh since I was invited

into a conservative think tank group which I’m very privileged to be part of called Council for National Policy. It’s

where I learned about some of the thinking of conservativism and why I’m

definitely in a conservative camp and I’m part of the community that’s helping

to foster responsible governance throughout the United States. Bob and

his background. He’s now executive director of CNP and we’re going to get into more importantly a lot of the

policies, a lot of the uh events that have occurred literally in the last few

weeks uh throughout the United States and now as we’re talking in Davos,

Switzerland, where President Trump is abroad. We’re doing all that when we return right after this.

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get there for My Pillow. Hi friends, welcome back to the Grassroots Truth Cast and my guest again

is Robert Bob McCuin, former US Congressman and executive director of

the Council for National Policy. Bob, welcome aboard. I’m so excited to have you with us uh this week on the show.

There’s our p You might want to talk about how our paths cross. I remember exactly when we first met, but um uh it

was at the Council of National Policy. you and I both uh uh I’m proud to be a

member of and and you’re head of it and it was from your uh introduction to so

many uh first class people throughout the United States that choose to stay anonymous and uh and that’s what it

should be. But um they’ve contributed so much to conservativism and what I’d

consider uh the the the policy makers having influence over the policies of

this nation. Yeah. Well, CMP is unique in that uh is an outgrowth of uh the conflict in the

1980 presidential campaign between the establishment folk and the Reagan folk.

And uh the the establishment folk weren’t lift weren’t carrying their

degree of the weight. They were leaving everything on Reagan. Not many people remember all this. He was so despised

just just like Jim just like Donald Trump is because he he beat Jimmy Carter

and and that was their their hero and you know he only had 18% inflation and

22% interest rates and and uh only one plane and three could fly and only one

one ship and three in the Navy could sail. He was just literally one of the most incompetent people. One of the two

most worst presidents we’ve ever had. But that’s another topic. Nevertheless, he he was such a vehicle for the

liberals that when Reagan beat him, they were really really mad. And so they decided that they would the friends that

were supportive of Ronald Reagan to get people together. And you have all these wonderful folks that are concerned about

life, concerned about economics, concerned about national defense, concerned about cultural issues, foreign

policy, but they’re all in their own little silos. And they said, “We need something that brings them together that doesn’t compete with them, but brings

them together.” Like the Chamber of Commerce. The Chamber of Commerce doesn’t sell shoes, but it has people who do. And doesn’t sell cars, but has

people who do. Doesn’t sell houses, but it has people who do. And that’s what CMP was the Council for National Policy,

the folks that are the specialists in in the National Rifle Association or in the Heritage Foundation or in Judicial Watch

or all the things that people are doing great things. There needs to be one place where they come together. They

don’t take orders from each other because they’re all equals. So they need an umbrella organization that also

doesn’t compete with them. And so the way I get attention I tell people CMP doesn’t do anything. And then then they

I said however it has members that do everything. And so what we do is get together three times a year in order to

bolster each other who’s doing what. Of course, there’s going to be a great deal of focus on on we’re going to have the

head of Department of of Homeland Security and to see and also as Jack

Hullman has spoken with ICE as to how the left is able to use that to take

down in these sanctuary cities to take down the rule of law and uh who so CMP is able to bring those people together

to accomplish that and it has a handful of business leaders as well, not just the heads of organizations, but people

such as yourself, Jean, that bring it together and make it possible. It’s has a limited membership, but it’s been a

powerful powerful thing. Meet three times a year and um Liz and I joined our third the third meeting back in 1982 and

uh since as you mentioned I’ve been running it here now for a little over a decade and happy as a pig and slop as we

say in southern Ohio. Well, and me too. I’m proud if that’s

what you call it. I’m happy to be part of that slop because I’ve met so many innovative people. those people you’re

talking about who will remain anonymous unless they choose to bring their names up, but are people who have contributed

to the national policy and been the what I’d call the core thinking in Republican

conservativism uh nationwide. Uh Bob, I’m I’m torn with trying to make the

analogy of uh Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, two heroes in my life, but I

think each coming from a different um path uh at different times under

different political circumstances. You’re right, Reagan had a um had

adversaries of his own. But have you ever seen uh a president uh recover from

such hostility uh and abuse as Donald Trump said differently? Why would a guy stay in

office or even try to run again? Who would who has put his not only himself

but his family and people around him in such terrible abuse and they just don’t

seem to quit. Right now, even in Minneapolis, uh we see them claiming

that ICE is a terrorists organization when in fact Trump’s just trying to get

all these illegal, hostile rapists and um and and and criminals from other

countries who’ve leaked their way into this nation. He’s trying to get him out. He’s not getting help from the local uh

author uh police authorities or the state authorities. And now he’s being criticized going down the streets for

trying to extricate them from where they where they’ve uncovered them. And somehow he’s the villain. I don’t get

it. Well, you need everyone needs to understand how blessed America is.

America is the finest, greatest nation in the history of mankind by a factor of 20. It’s the most generous nation, but

our standard of living is out of all proportion. You’ve got that member of Congress from Minnesota, from

Minneapolis, who who constantly gripes and complains about our country. In her in her native country before she came

here, the the income today, this is in 2026. The income is $331 a year. That’s

less than $1 a day. And she comes and gripes and complains about our country.

The second richest spot on earth is Western Europe, France, Germany, Britain. In America, we have a level

below which we will not permit a person to sink. You come to this country, sit down on a park bench, gripe and complain

about the country. We will bury you with stamps for food, a roof over your head, bed, unlimited health care for you and

anybody you’ve ever met. Unlimited education. A person living in poverty in America. This is the bottom. This is a

people that just barely make it. Person in poverty in America. This isn’t my opinion. This is the Wall Street Journal

and the Heritage Foundation, the rock the recctor study done every 24 months for now 37 years. A person living in

poverty in America is more likely to have a telephone, a television, an air

conditioner, an automobile, eats more meat, has more square footage space than

the average resident of the second richest spot on Earth, Western Europe.

The poorest nation, the poorest state in America is Mississippi. the the median

income of a person in Mississippi is higher than every member of the European

Union except three countries. So greater than Britain with within 25 years ago

the European Union in the United States had the same GDP. It’s now the GDP of the European Union is half of the United

States and four years from now Poland will have a greater GDP than Germany. These folks have gone after this this

global warming nonsense. Shut down all their productivity, shut down their factories are living in poverty. So if

you can make it to America, if you get here, then we immediately give you a a

social security card immediately. And when you do that, once you have that, then you can you can end up voting

because in places like P or like California, it is against the law. I’ll stumble through this in case somebody

misses it. A it is against the law to ask a person if they’re an American

citizen when they’re voting. Now, of course, you can’t get into a a movie theater. You can’t buy a pack of

cigarettes. You can’t do it unless you have to prove ID. But if you’re choosing the leadership of our country and our state under the liberal left, they you

cannot even ask the question. So therefore, when these people come and let’s put it in perspective, we all talk

about Ellis Island. On the first day of January 1892, they opened Ellis Island. and they let the people through. From

1892 until it was closed shortly before Kennedy took office under Dwight Eisenhower. During that period of time,

Ellis Island brought into America 13.6

million people. That’s over that entire 80-year period. Now, that’s as we know

the lowest that we believe that Don that Joe Biden allowed to stumble in here was

13 million. It goes to 26 million. The president says 25 million. That means more people twice is anywhere from as

many to twice as many people came to America under Biden as came during the

entire time of Ellis Island. But here’s here’s what’s more important. People came through Ellis Island for one

purpose to become Americans. When they came here, they wanted to speak the

language, salute our flag, and accept our values. The people that And that’s

the difference between legal and illegal. You know, Jean, you might be willing to rent your house for three

years to to a a guy next door who is is you’re being transferred because your

company is transferring you someplace another part of the country for three years or you’re in the military and

you’re being transferred for three years. You will sit down with a person, you’ll sign a contract, and you’re willing to to lease your home for the

three years that you’re gone. Now, that’s called a legal transaction. One thing you won’t do, the one thing that

nobody listening to this podcast will do is go walk out, leave the door open, and come back three years later. Why?

Because who comes? Not doctors, not lawyers, not entrepreneurs, not people coming for the hope of America. Trash

comes. People that will come in there and rip out the the the the sinks and the toilets. They’ll come and have have

marijuana parties and burn out your rugs. Trash comes. There’s a difference between legal and illegal. Now, who

comes to the country illegally? Let me tell you, people just come in for No, they’re not. People a lawyer, somebody

who wants to be a lawyer, somebody who wants to be a doctor, somebody wants to be an entrepreneur, they’re not going to come illegally because if they come

illegally, they can never be those things. So, who comes? The drug dealers, the disabled, the the the people that

that the countries don’t want them. And so, they ship them here. And that’s the ignorance of people that can’t

understand the difference between people who come and wave their own flags and trash our country versus the people who

came to here to wave our flag and accept our language and our culture. I remember my grandfather telling the

story you just spoke of. My Italian grandfather immigrant, my other

grandfather who was English and Irish both came over and went through Ellis Island. And I remember growing up as a

young boy and uh my um I was complaining because they didn’t teach Italian in the

public school system. They taught Spanish and French and maybe German, but they didn’t teach Italian. I made a

complaint about that. My grandfather, my Italian grandfather overheard me. Dad, I

said, I want to learn Italian, too. My grandfather looked over me and says,

don’t you worry about that. you just learn your English like I’m trying to. He said he said I I left that behind me

for a reason. It was Mussolini and that dictatorship and some of the things we fought against and um and he was so

proud to be an American. He could bar he couldn’t write it but he could barely

speak it. and he was proud to have saved 14 Americans in World War I uh where he

took a bayonet in the arm and someone the German pulled a uh pulled pulled the trigger and you could see the gunshot

wound right above the bayonet and there’s a man who never who um later in

life postumously got a got the purple heart but never saw it in his life. I’m

so proud of him and my other grandfather as well. And everything you just said, these people

coming over are not coming over to assimilate into Americans, America’s

culture. They’re coming over to destroy the American way of life and to replace

it with foreign ideologies, the Islamic jihad in particular, which is totally

contrary to our dem democratic principles, not to mention our Christian

faith. And and Bob, I’m having trouble figuring out how the Democrats, as as

controversial as they might be and different with philosophy from you and from our conservative point of view,

refuse to accept the fact that they should be assimilating into our way of

life. Point number one. Point number two, that they work their way into the

political process like Elon Omar did that uh who was a negative net worth

when she gets into office and is something north of $30 million in net

worth. How many years has she been a congresswoman and she’s got $30 million

out of nowhere? I think that job today is paying uh maybe just up to 180,000 a

year with some benefits. I still don’t see how you get to $30 million.

Exactly. Well, and the Democrat party is interested in power and so this allows

them to get power when they bring these people in. And that’s the difference from what America stood for. America

felt that we were all created equal in God’s sight. That in order to do that, it’s all right there in the opening to

the to the declaration. We hold these truths. All men are created equal. Now that means and are endowed by their

creator, not by by the group that they belong to, the union in which they’re a part or their ethnicity or what language

they speak or what because God made them by their creator and give them three things. Life number one, then liberty.

Now notice the sequence. See, liberty is a precious little value if you’re dead. So you have to have life first, then

liberty, then sewer systems and overpasses. But the first thing you do, and so the Democrat party has to do

first of what? Number one, do away with God. Once you do away with God, there is no protection for life. And here’s the

thing, Genie, and for anybody who thinks about they’re arguing with their kids or their grand, who should I vote for? Any

politician, any politician who will take innocent

life will not hesitate to take your liberty. And the only reason you can take

innocent life is because you do not believe that there is a sacredness that God has made you. So the Democrat party

eliminated any references to God. They tried back, I forget when it was 1988 or

so, somebody on the floor wanted to add add God someplace in the platform and

they shouted it down. No, no, no, no. So there’s no God. And then you cannot be

successful in the Democrat party if you support life. Now, when I first went to Congress, at least a third of the

pro-life votes were Catholic Democrats, and all the Northeast and those people,

there are no pro-life votes left in the Democrat party. They they drove th all

of those people out. In fact, just as an aside, I met with some Democrat consultants. These are people who advise

candidates for office in Texas. Some friends of mine set it up. These people said, “We are Democrats. We believe in

Dem.” He said, ‘If we support a candidate, a Democrat candidate for office, we run their campaign and

they’re running for state representative, they’re running for senator or so, whatever. He said, we will be black ballalled by the party.

They will not let us use their consultants for for polling or for advertising or for anything else. We

will be frozen out because they do not want anybody in that party that believes in life. And then the next step is once

you have once I can take your life then I can tell you that you can’t come out unless it’s on a Tuesday and you cannot

buy gas unless I say so and you got to wear toilet paper on your face and you can know all these things that they they

because then they have all these regulations as to what kind of car you can what kind of toilet paper you can

use what what kind of water you can in in the faucet and in the toilet. They can control everything because now

government is supreme. Now, that’s what Democrats are committed to. And they they need people in order to use. So,

they were founded on the idea, who’s going to pick our cotton? And here we are 100 years later, who’s going to pick

our fruits? It’s the same stuff. They look at it only person, not as what they can become. They they they immediately,

you hear them say all the time, well, these are the people that change our bedps. These are the people that they

only see people as as tools. They don’t see him as almighty cre creation of God

with unique talents that if they get here and that freedom my my wife has just been diagnosed recently with cancer

and we’ve been going through meeting with these physicians and of course you know white males were began eliminated

about three years ago being allowed about 30 years ago in order to get in the professions and so it’s very hard to

find a white male uh American doctor and so these doctors are all fine people but

one of them is from Nigeria. Another one is from Ethiopia. These are very talented, skilled people that when they

come to America, they they excel because they’re given freedom. That’s what makes

and yet the Democrat party looks at those people, those are bedpan changing people. Th those are fruit picking

people because they see people not because God made them, but because of the power group. And so they they you

they always they always talk about about women’s rights. They Hispanic rights,

gay rights, they look at the group. They don’t and and this country was not founded upon the group. It was founded

upon the idea that all of us are given those rights and they come universally to each and you listen to a politician

for 60 seconds and you can tell where they come on both sides. So the answer to your question is why do they do it?

because they want power that that they can’t get by producing a good product or

by helping other people, but they can collectively use these people so they bring them across to change the complex

of America. Make them dependent upon it. They’ll never succeed if they’re here illegally. And they know that, but

they’ll be dependent upon them for their supplies. And that’s what we’re seeing taking place in these in these sanctuary

cities. One of the things I think may come from this um invasion of 20 plus

million illegals into the United States after Tom Hman and uh Christy Gnome and

the rest of the team, ICE in particular, just gets the crux of the wrongdoers out

of the nation. We’re still left with the dilemma of so many people who are considered ille illegal immigrants, but

many of them I’m not I’m not giving them a pass. They’re here illegally, but many

of them really with good intention want to contribute and assimilate into

America and and be taxpayers to pay, not a necessarily a free ride. Bob, what I’m

struck with is that there’s there’s an a a there’s a lack of desire. They’re

fearful. They’re not able to step up and become uh independent thinkers the way

you’re describing because of the uh oversight of the Democrat party regime.

My question is, what makes the Democrats think they can

control this narrative? uh uh with people forever. You can’t control people

who are begging to be free. Freedom is the foundation of what that’s why I call this program the grassroots truth cast

because it starts from the grassroots up, not the autocratic top down. It’s

it’s governance from we the people. And I think even though they may have gotten

here illegally, some, not all, will realize the benefit

of assimilating into a United States culture rather than remaining

uh almost like the Stockholm syndrome. Where’s my beating today? you know,

where they they they need to uh realize at some point that this top-down

mentality from the Democrat party is not seen in the Republican party. Footnote,

how many Democrats have become Republicans? Footnote, how

many Republicans have become Democrats? Yeah, it’s one way, right? I mean, we’re

see we’re seeing it go. Many of them have abandoned ship. My concern. Folks,

we’re talking with Bob McCuin. He’s head of the Council for National Policy, executive director, a wonderful

conservative think tank. I’m honored to have him with us here today on Grassroots Truthcast. Also former

congressman from what was it? 1981 to 1993. Reagan and Bush. Reagan and Bush.

Reagan and Bush. Yeah. You caught it during an interesting time. Um

I I’ve talked about a few things there. Why don’t you just jump on whatever part of it you want? Hi friends, Jean

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Well, you’re you’re 100% correct in that uh the that here’s the key difference to

socialists in general and Democrats in particular. Seriously, Jean, any and this isn’t

being antagonistic towards anyone. If you ask a Democrat how wealth is

created, you will get a blank stare. Now, they want to say we’re going to tax

the rich and those millionaires. They just the speaker uh the the governor of Washington yesterday gave his state of

the state address. We’re going to have a millionaire tax. We’re going to get to millionaires. And and of course it used

to be that that Bernie Sanders, he always talks about those millionaires, those horrible millionaires. Well, of course, he’s he’s a multi-millionaire

now. So he now he always talks about the billionaires. We need to tax the billionaires. But but here here’s the

thing about they know how to tax it. They know how to steal it. They know how to Here’s redistribute it. They know

they would talk the redistribution. And I remember when the when the mayor of of New York back when he was American born

Delasio, he was running for president and he he said there’s plenty of wealth in this country. The only problem is the

way it’s distributed. See, they know how to redistribute it. They do not know how it’s made. Now, let me just take a

moment. It’s not that complicated. There a car is going down the street out here. There’s only two ways I can get money

out of that car. Only two. One is that I stay awake nights figuring out a way to

do something for that person that is so valuable that they’ll slam on their brakes and pull in and say, “You’re

going to wash my car and clean off the dash and sweep the carpeting. I would much rather have that than have this $20 bill. You’re that pair of that suit. I’d

much rather have that than have this $500.” A global positioning said, “I’ll never get lost again. I’d much rather

have that than have this $400.” So under free enterprise, the way I get money is I bless a person. So people make an

exchange which at the end of the exchange they are both better off. Now let’s stop and think about it because I

majored in economics. So I know how economics professors sell this stuff and they’re dead. They talk about how the

oppressor takes advantage of the word. No, no, no, no, no. The only way I can get money under a free market is for

them to freely reach in their pocket and say, “What you’re doing for me is more

valuable than this.” and they make an exchange with at the end of the exchange they are both better off. They are both

wealthier than they were. And if they’re not, they don’t make the exchange. That’s the only way that wealth is is created in America. That’s why 4% of the

population of the world call themselves Americans. And yet every year they write more books, more plays, more symphonies,

more copyrights, more inventions than the rest of the world combined. Why? Because we’re smarter than anybody else?

No. because we’re freer than anybody else. You take all of these people, so many of them, the head of Google, the

the richest man in the world, the list goes on and on. These people, they weren’t born in America. Did they when

they got here, did they suddenly get smart? No, they got free. And it’s that freedom that makes it what? Now, I said

there were two ways to get money out of that car. The other is I walk over to it at the stop sign. I take out a gun and I

say, “I want half of everything in your purse.” Now, have have we created any wealth? No. Have we redistributed? Yes.

From that person to you. And here’s the point. The degree to which a person benefits under that system is the degree

to which the other person is diminished. No wealth has been created. Now that’s called socialism. If I do it oneon-one

with my gun through the window, that’s called a criminal. If I get a whole crowd of people in Minneapolis and I come up and I demand it, that’s called

socialism. Socialism. I come and I take what you have. I stand up as governor of

Washington state. I I stand up as the new mayor of New York. and I’m going to take money from you. You have an

apartment building. I’m going to take that apartment building away from you. And when I do that, have I redistributed

wealth? Yes. But you’ve diminish the person. And so therefore, the person that was producing and and we can go

throughout history, but the most recent would be the third richest nation in the Western Hemisphere 20 years ago was

Venezuela. And when it was freed just the last week by taking away the new president, it was borderline between it

and and Cuba as to which is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. That’s what socialism does. Why? Because

it doesn’t create wealth. It steals the wealth from the person that created it. Therefore, the person that gets it says,

“Well, this is great. I don’t have to produce it.” And the person that made it and doesn’t doesn’t get to keep it, he

says, “I’m not going to make it.” And the thing collapses every time. And you have to be a Democrat, blind, deaf, and

dumb not to be able to see it. Two questions then. How close were we in

losing this nation? Uh you can go back to the Biden administration and what’s

changed since then? And the second question is uh why didn’t more people

see the that the wealth was being redistributed? I I don’t is is there what is the deep

state? I I know the George Sorus is a is the typical name brought up when you

bring up the deep state, but its tentacles must have reached out so far

into this nation over the decades to create have created such a pervasive

cancer throughout to have gotten us to this point. Those are the two questions.

Well, I let me just tell you very simply, Gene, it’s it’s not that sinister. It’s just ignorance. They

simply do not know. And so I stand up. Gen Z doesn’t know, that’s for sure.

Well, the second richest the second richest per capita nation in the Western Hemisphere in January of 1959 was a

place called Cuba. Number two, richer than any place. The in when when when uh

uh what’s her name took took over in in Argentina, it was the fourth richest

nation in the Western Hemisphere. So, so unless you know what makes it, then you come along and you say, “See that wealth

over there? You vote for me and I will give it to you.” And so that’s to a person who is ignorant and doesn’t ask

the next question. You ask a very simple question. Where are you going to get it? I’m going to give you free health care.

I’m going to give you free education. I’m going to give give you free housing. I’m going to give you I’m going to give

you groceries is what this idiot from this immigrant from from Africa who’s now the mayor of New York City. I’m

going to give you I’m going to give you food from a grocery and then and here’s the thing you need the next sentence you

need somebody to ask where are you going to get it in the only government never produces anything Jean remember

government doesn’t have anything it doesn’t first take from someone else no politician can give you anything he

hasn’t first stolen from someone else and the degree to which you steal it is the degree to which you make places poor

and so in answer to your question how close are we very very close because

people do not know how it comes about and and and the the day that Joe Biden

became president, if you took a house, any house, you put your finger on it, that house, and take it on the day that

he left office, the monthly payments, the mortgage payments for that house

were twice as high as they were when he took office because the increase in inflation and interest rates, it cost

twice as much. So, uh, for when when I was young, the average house was three

times the annual income. Now it’s seven times. And so, therefore, these people who see no hope, what the when some

idiot comes along who’s never produced anything, here’s the point. Every one of these politicians, you try Omar, you

take that hyal the woman who didn’t even come here till Obama was president of the United States. Now she’s a member of

Congress and head of head of the the uh leftist union, whatever it’s called, the progressive caucus. Those those people,

they come here and what do they know? All they know is what they learned in Pakistan or in Ethiopia or in or in

Indonesia. They don’t know. And that and now the final point and and I know we have to draw this to a close. It gets

back to what Thomas Jefferson was concerned about because Thomas Jefferson felt that once people get off the farm,

once they live in the city and they don’t understand where wealth comes from, they haven’t produced it. And he

said, when that happens, when more people are living off the farm as opposed to producing it, well, the truth of the matter is that’s the situation.

These people like like AOC uh who’s grown up in in a wealthy neighborhood in

in New York, she doesn’t understand. And and let me conclude with the idea of redistribution. If you’re driving from

Columbus, Ohio to Denver and you go out through Iowa and you see on both sides of the road corn, corn corn, corn corn,

mile after mile, corn, corn corn, corn corn, then you get to Nebraska and you see on both sides of wheat, wheat,

wheat, mile after mile. Then you break into Colorado where where it’s it’s dry and mountainous and you get up and you

tell these folks, it is terrible, G. It is terrible the way that corn is

distributed in this country. The way that wheat is and every farmer is going to sit there, you idiot, corn is not

distributed. Corn is grown. Wheat wheat is not distributed. It’s grown. And wealth is not distributed. Wealth is

created. And if you don’t know where corn comes from, if you don’t know where we come and you don’t know where wealth

comes from, then you’ll vote for these people that end up taking a wealthy nation, driving it into the ground as as

we see in in our major cities in Chicago and New York and elsewhere.

You have touched uh folks, we’re with Bob Mchuan, US Congressman, six terms,

12 years. He’s uh currently executive director of Council for National Policy.

also did some advisory work on certain committees under the Trump administration. I believe he’s also uh

been become a friend of mine who has given me some great insight. I I Bob, one of the things I’m Where did this

start, Bob? I I kind of know the answer. Let me just throw it out there. Is it

me? But it seems to have taken a major transformation during uh Barack Obama’s

uh introduction into politics. Yes or no? Well, he uh we we saw

blaming it on one person. Clearly there’s a lot of factors coming in at the same time. But from a global

I think the racism was was accelerated very very much and and what what happened is that we changed the law. So,

it was very hard if you were from a European nation. It’s very hard to get in if you’re not. And we have this thing

have this thing called the lottery. And you I ask people oftentimes when I see a person that I encounter them and they

you could tell they’re they’re not American and they can’t speak the language. I said, “You did were you a part of the lottery?” Oh, yes. Yes. The

lottery. Here’s what the lottery is. It was installed and it’s only been terminated recently under Donald Trump,

but it’s been going on for 40 years. That is if you go to the most hellhole place in the world, a place that has no

electricity and has has none of the modern things that they wouldn’t even qualify as a nation to to come to

America. But you you go to an internet cafe and you put your m your quarters in

there, the first thing that pops up is a seal of the United States of America and it says become an American and you type

in your name and then and then and so in order to quote have diversity. Now, what is diversity? Diversity means that that

that we’re basing you not because of your talent, not because you want to be an American, not because of the content

of your character. We’re doing it because of the color of your skin to create diversity. And so we we we bring

these people who are here who have have no idea as to what America stands for. And then they are used as pawns. and and

we so the conclusion is you see this woman on MSNBC and she said when we say

we want to restore America now what do we think Jean we when we say we want to restore America we want to be able to

have our son leave his his bicycle in the front yard overnight and nobody’s going to steal it we think we can leave

leave uh the cars unlocked at a ballpark and the parents are coaching and think like in still in rural America we say we

want to preserve that and every one of them immediately respond here’s what they say they say Oh, you’re just mad

because the America’s turning brown or America’s turning black. That’s the only

thing they can see. See, a racist a racist cannot see anything other than skin color. And when you and I are

talking about character and peace and prosperity, we’re not all they can think is, “Oh, you must be talking about

race.” And that was accelerated under do under uh Barack Obama. And

well, you started you started the conversation earlier with your wife going in for care. We wish her the very

best, by the way. But, uh, she’s going in for care and the doctor was a

foreigner, African-American, or from some other race. The point is, I hope he

or she is the best guy. Yes. In the world to work on your wife. I

don’t give a hoot whether he’s black, white, or pink with the yellow. Here’s the whole thing, Jean. Here’s the thing. Liberals don’t believe that. when

you start talking liberals believe that if you’re if you’re this black doctor of ours who developed a real friendship

from Nigeria if you if you discuss if you discuss him they they don’t believe that he’s that good they don’t believe

that he can come here they believe that he needs to have points added to his score he needs to be given special

privileges and they teach those folks they teach and that’s why all of these experts are often immigrant because

they’ve taught the the African-Americans that they’re inferior here because the

racist left thinks that. And you take somebody like Ben Carson. Ben Carson’s mother virtually locked him in his

apartment, wouldn’t let him out. And he he became a a neurosurgeon, a person that deals with the brain. He he he he

was uh for for small children. And of course, he separated the brain, the most complicated

uh case in the history of the world where he separated the brains of these two young people. Uh he he’s a kid that

grew up in Detroit whose mother who could not read would often demand that he do book reports and she would study.

He didn’t know that she couldn’t read the book report but because she knew that in America the opportunity was

there if you lived right and did the right thing and that’s that’s what every American needs to be taught. The left

deals with power on skin color. God looks at the heart.

Amen to that Bobby Mchuan. I think that’s the essence. Let me let me pivot.

You’ve talked about issues that drive to some fundamental concerns. We’ve presented the problem. We’ve presented

some social and political concerns. So, what’s the solution? I ran for Congress recently. I was up against nine

other Republicans and Donald Trump chose uh someone else. My only regret in life

is I wish Donald Trump got to know me better. But maybe another day. But but to the point um

my solution to the issues you and I have discussed today is the need for some

constitutional amendments that focus on immigration that focus on the definition of a border

and how we protect it that a definition of the voting procedure unique to a

president which we all vote for no matter what city and county we’re in in the nation. And there’s one thing on the

ballot that’s common. That’s the president and vice president. Uh and and

I could go on with a few other things. A a zerobased budgeting, balanced budget

approach to Congress, term limits for congressmen and senators.

I don’t trust these elected officials. You and you were one and I was hoping to

be one, but I I didn’t I don’t trust them. And I certainly don’t like the way they’re behaving on the news and the way

we view them uh daily. It’s an embarrassment to our um to our

representations uh that’s supposed to be representing us. I would like to see a Republican

president, a Republican Senate, and a Republican

uh uh Congress. Not because I think it’s the right. a two-party system for a

reason. I I’m only asking for it for a short period of time. Hopefully, we get

it in the midterm elections. Hold it, I should say, because I see the need for

constitutional amendments to define what an American citizen is and what their

entitlements are to voting. There is a place for government at the national

level to be forthright and to be consistent with the way we are

represented through all 50 states. Uh what say you about such constitutional

amendments? Because I think I think that’s the source of the the source of the we’ve talked about the problems. I

think that’s the the solution. Well, but Jean, all of all of that doesn’t require a change in the

constitution. They just need you just need to pass the law. Yeah, but the problem is the politicians

are bad behaviors. They behave poorly and politicians come and go and we can’t

trust them. Bob, I we need something codified that lives after you and I are

gone. and and and a an amendment would. And my only concern is is that we have

we’ve witnessed, look at Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer before Hakee Jeff. Oh

my words, 40 years on the job. What have we got? We’ve got disruption to a degree

that’s um that should not be there. had they been out of office sooner. I’ll

take the ignorance of someone before I take complicit bad behavior. Uh which

you could allege. Nancy, I ought to call her up for some stock tips. But I mean,

uh it’s an example of what I’m trying to get to about trying to create a

refinement. We have one area that the Constitution has not dealt with. It’s

called bad behavior. We have not policed our congressmen, men and women, and our

senators the way to the other extreme. We’ve gone after pres the president. How

many times has he is he going to be impeached again if there’s a Democrat

majority in the Senate or the House? What are we in for? Is that how we have

to where’s where’s the uh penalty for congressmen and women behaving badly and

vexaciously going after a political opponent. Look at what’s going on with

Jack Smith right now for his overreach. Um um Pam Bondi, Attorney General, is

finally she’s drinking water out of a fire hose, trying to catch up with all of what all of the indictments that are

about to drop. Will it be too late? Will it be too late? Or will we get some of

these bad actors behind bars in our lifetime? Well, that’s a legitimate question. And

that’s probably why we want to talk a little bit about the fact that we were rescued by the only man that could

rescue us. And that was somebody that was willing to take the arrows and be attacked at 18. They tried to put him in

jail. Everyone should should read the the recent book by Eric Trump as well as Melania. And they explain how that the

day he left office, they shut down over 300 accounts so that his businesses couldn’t function. They couldn’t pay

their bills. They couldn’t take in money. The banks defunded them. like they they were trying as and and shut

off the credit card for the first lady of the United States and so they wanted to then put him in jail for 700 years

and all. So they play for keeps and only one person could have fought that long enough to where where America is to now.

Ju just isn’t it amazing? Isn’t it amazing, Bob, that the authority they could not

uh interrupt or uh interfere with his authority abroad, especially under the

Monroe Doctrine to protect the uh the United States here in the Western

Hemisphere, the way he’s uh prevented seven or eight wars from occurring, the way he’s

handled something that’s really quite uh difficult, and that’s the Russia Ukraine

conflict which he admits has gone on longer than he wished it has. It has become more complicated than he thought

it would be. And yet still he has he has done so many things. We’re talking

Donald Trump, of course, but he’s done so many great things to protect the

nation uh for our grandchildren. And

I I pray to God that we see in our lifetime a congressional act that

creates another Mount Rushmore exclusive for him

where where it’s just him on a slab of granite on the CA canyon somewhere. You

pick it. I don’t care. get him up there and let’s uh make that an edifice that

we can honor and uh pray to and thank for what he has done to protect this

nation. Uh no disregard to the other four who are wonderful heroes in their

own right in a different chapter in time. But I must submit and I think you agree that Donald Trump has taken more

arrows and and has uh has has overcome. This is a historic moment in time which

is why I asked you to come on today because I think we have seen in history

a pivot that won’t be recognized until after you and I are long gone. God

willing it appears in the history books. God willing, the Gen Z crowd, our grandchildren and their grandchildren

read about it in history books that shows how this nation corrected itself.

Thank God for the three three-legged stool of our government. Folks, we have

been with Bob Mchuan, US Congressman under the Bush and um what what a Bush

and Reagan administrations um and has been a contributor to the Trump administration. And most

importantly, he’s now serving as executive director for the Council of National Policy. I’ll be with him in the

next few weeks in California at one of the three events he mentioned earlier uh

that they put on each year. Uh, I like to think of it as a conservative think tank. Bob Mcuan brings to the table

people from all walks of life that come into this council of national policy uh

uh to share their insight in the protection of our democracy and conservative Christian principles which

founded this democracy. And uh I couldn’t be prouder, Bob, to be part of

your group. Uh, I know you’re not out soliciting for members and so forth, but

if someone wants to talk to me, Bob can’t do it, but I’ll do it.

Contact me. Let me put a plug in here, then. Uh, join us here on the Grassroots Truth Cast and become a subscriber. You

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episode and many others including Tom H. Homeman, including Desh D Suza,

including uh um Lee Greenwood and oh boy, we have coming in here from all

walks of life. And I am so honored today to have Bob Mchuan here. Bob, we have

just uh this is the tip of the iceberg. Let me let you have a good three to five

minutes of of final summary thoughts on what you think the future of America

looks like in the wake of Donald Trump coming back from Davos, Switzerland

today. Well, it it just has to do with leadership. And you know the country was flat on his back and in 1980 said the

question is not whether or not the head of the council of economic advisors our chief cheerleader he said the question

is not whether or not America will have a declining standard of living. In the 1980s the question is whether or not

Americans can learn to adapt to their declining standard of living. We had gas

lines. Now this nation today at this moment we we have you you judge natural

gas 0 to 20 0 to 50 50 to 100 and then plus 100 you can’t over a 100redyear

supply you can’t measure that America has over aundred year supply of natural gas when Jimmy Carter put out an

executive order you had to shut them all off you had you had lights that were used people in their homes people street

lights were natural gas he destroyed them in in we had 2700 acres in Ohio

under glass. Uh uh the natural gas heated these flower boxes and and these

the fruit the vegetables that were growing there. He wouldn’t even give him 72 hours to switch to something else.

Why? Because we were running out of we were at the end. We’re coming to the very end. So he with gas lines and and

18% 22% interest rates the country was falling apart. The head of the of the

African Union they formed it is now called the African conference. The first leader speaker was the president of the

Soviet Union, Leoned Brnet. He said, “By the end of this decade,” that’s the 1980s. He said, “We, the Soviet Union,

will be able to work our will any place on the planet because the correlation of

forces, economic, military, and political are on the side of socialism and communism.” That’s what America was.

And on election night, Donald Ronald Reagan went on television. He said, “There’s nothing wrong with this country

that proper leadership can’t cure.” and the nation chose him as a leader. And by the end of that decade, by 1989,

not only had two out of every three jobs created on this planet were created in one country, the United States of

America, but the entire world was chanting USA, USA, USA. That’s what

leadership means. Now, Donald Trump made an agreement with Gaza uh in the strip

where they were killing the Jews and he was able to get people to to agree to a

peace treaty. He flies to Charmeal Shake in Egypt. He he flies there and is on

the ground for three hours and 20 minutes. And just because he goes there to sign this document over third over

three dozen heads of state including the prime minister of Great Britain, the president of France, the president of

the fourth largest nation, largest Muslim nation on earth, Indonesia, the president of Pakistan. These people come

not to say anything, not to sign anything, not to do anything, but just

because the president of the most powerful, most wonderful nation on earth is there. They run just to be close,

just to stand there and watch him and then get in their planes and fly home. That’s what power is about. 18 months

ago, we had a man that would fight his his folding chair on the beach and people wouldn’t even stop and look at

him. Why walk right past him? That man was president of the United States and nobody cared. But America is back

because this man knows h how how to do things. He knows he Azaraijan Muslims

have been killing ar Christian Armenians for 31 years. And so Donald Trump says,

“We’re going to resolve this situation about people ripping us off. Everybody gets a 25% uh tariff on anything they

sell to us unless you come and and tell us why we shouldn’t do it.” So Armenians and and the Arjians run, they said, “We

we want an agreement.” He says, “You guys are killing each other. Why do we have to mess with you?” He said, “Well, we’ll we’ll quit that.” And so he signs

they get an agreement. When they did it in the East Room, they’re on both ends of the East Room. In fact, he made a reference to it just the other day. They

barely talked to each other. They started talking. Then they started leaning across Trump talking to each other. In the end, they signed the

agreement. They’re hugging each other at the end of the event. The end of the war that one of them had they had not spoken

for 19 years. They’ve been in this battle. But Donald Trump is changing the direction of America. That means what’s

the difference? Leadership makes the difference. The Democrat party wants a nation that’s weak and stumbling. They

want to take people from around the world, such as the congresswoman in Minnesota, the congresswoman in Seattle,

the mayor of New York, bring people from around the world who don’t know America, who don’t understand America, who don’t

love America, and they want them to take this country down and and and make China and the others supreme. The United

States is is turned a corner because of the leadership and you and I determine whether or not that succeeds.

I pray that these people realize assimilating into the culture of what

our democracy of our constitutional republic is all about really uh is it

does not deny them their freedoms. They still practice their faith and anything else they want. Uh so long as it’s not

an insurrection. I pray that they assimilate like my grandfather and your grandfather did into this nation because

it’s worked. When are they going to wake up? It’s the longest standing governance

on the planet Earth. It’s And we’re celebrating this year 250 years. Hello.

I mean, it didn’t just happened. It happened because we, like you just said, we gave an entitlement to all of them to

speak their mind freely. That doesn’t mean they get to take over our government and control us unilaterally

from the top down. Uh, everything you’ve said, Bob McCuin, has is the reason why

I hoped we’d have a successful conversation today on Gene Valentino’s

Grassroots Truth Cast. Sir, you did it. And I’m grateful to be part of the Council for National Policy. Folks, Bob

Mchuan’s with me, uh, executive director of the Council of National Policy.

They’re in Washington, DC. Look them up. What’s the website, Bob? Well, it it it’s uh CNP.org. CFNP,

Char Council for National Policy.org. But basically, the membership is uh is

they used to say about the a person owned a Packard. Ask the man who drives one. Well, CNP, you ask the man, ask the

man who is one. And if if they’re interested in in attending sometime, why, all they need to do is contact

Eugene, and we’ll take care of it. Contact me, folks. I’d gladly um introduce you to the right people. Uh

CNP is proud of the u uh of the focus they want to retain and maintain and

grow. It’s uh really what I consider some of the root inspiration for many of

the conservative thinking that exists in the United States today in several circles, not just the elected folks

themselves. Uh uh Bob Mchuan, thank you for joining me here today on the

grassroots truth guest. Bob also contributes with me on uh Newsmax and

I’m very proud to uh see him on Newsmax from time to time. We both share a

contributory role there and it’s been a lot of fun getting our conservative points of view out to the nation. And uh

so Bob, thank you for being with us today and I’ll see you soon in California. The honor is mine. Thank you, Jean, very

much. Thank you, sir. And thank all of you to for joining us here today on another

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