Tom Homan “Biden & Harris Are Intentionally Violating the Law”

[00:00:00] Mr. Holman, I’m a father. Do you have children? How can you possibly allow this to happen under your watch? Do you not care? Is it because these children don’t look like children that are around you? First of all, your comments are disgusting. I’ve served my country, I’ve served my country, I’ve served my country for 34 years.

I find your comments disgusting as well. I’ve served my country for 34 years. And yes, I held a five year old boy in my arms to impact that tractor trailer. I knelt down beside him and said, Because I knew what his last 30 minutes of his life were like. And I had a 5 year old son at the time. What I’ve been trying to do my 34 years serving my nation is to save lives.

So for you to sit there and insult my integrity and my love for my country and for children, that’s why this whole thing needs to be fixed. 1984. I’ve done this a long time. I’ve worked for 6 different presidents. And I’m going to be honest with the people that come to these events, how this [00:01:00] administration has changed the course of immigration enforcement to all new lows.

It’s just not about illegal immigration anymore. It’s about criminals. It’s about terrorism. It’s about drugs. The strongest nation in the world no longer controls the southern border, which has resulted in historic illegal immigration, historic drug flow, historic sex trafficking on women and children.

This can be stopped. We’ve done it before. I had dinner with the president in Las Vegas about three weeks ago. I’ll tell you what I told him. He comes back. I come back. Come back, we fix this shit.

Gene Valentino: Hi friends, Gene Valentino, and welcome back to another episode of Gene Valentino’s GrassRoots TruthCast. Our guest today is the former acting ICE director under the Trump administration, Tom Homan.

Tom, welcome aboard. Hey, thanks for having me. No, thanks for joining us. [00:02:00] Tom was gracious to find time in his busy schedule. These weeks, these few days, I should say, prior to the November 5th election, Tom has been very active formerly with all matters of law enforcement going back nearly 30 years in and around the the, the ICE administration and border protection and border security.

He finds himself acting ICE director for a period of time in the Trump administration. And now Tom, I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but are you going to be joining Donald Trump when he’s reelected?

Tom Homan: Donald Trump’s wants me. He has me. That’s wonderful

Gene Valentino: news. That’s wonderful news, Tom.

I know that you had been with him and you were, you took a strong stance on immigration enforcement and you were a very vocal advocate for the, the [00:03:00] stricter immigration policies, which is really what I thought we’d focus on in this limited time today. The immigration. And the border. There’s so many things to talk about with Donald Trump, but assuming he’s reelected, what part of the elephant do you eat first?

What are you going to attack first on this border?

Tom Homan: Well, he is gonna be reelected, so the first thing we’ll attack is the border. Look, you gotta, rather than keep bailing water out the sinking boat, we gotta plug the hole in that boat. So we gotta, we gotta secure the board. That’s probably going to take a few months, three to four months, because you got to get Mexico to step up the remaining Mexico program and they’re not going to voluntarily do it.

It’s going to take a strong president to make them do it like he did before. You got third state country, but back in place and catch release immediately. Are those accounts are more, they didn’t want to be returned directly or, or putting the attention, not releasing the streets. That just brings more.

Then finally, we’re going to finish the wall. The wall works. The wall, the wall. [00:04:00] Is every place they built a wall, barrier, illegal immigration went down, and drug flow went down. So, that’s the first thing we do. Then, once you secure that border, while we’re securing the border, then you start your deportation operations.

Millions of people get released in the United States, especially the criminals and national security threats. They go first.

Gene Valentino: Yeah, Tom, in 2019, you had Trump had had a plan to cross the Mexican border with a special operations type team. He was intending to wipe out the cartel. He was intending to create a 20 mile buffer of sorts.

On the south side of the Rio Grande Mexican border, were you familiar with that plan?

Tom Homan: President Trump understands that the criminal cartels who, who right now maintain operational control of the southern border need to be taken out. And the reason he said that, and I also mentioned at the at the The RNC where I spoke on stage was that the criminal [00:05:00] cartels in Mexico have killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined.

So he’s going to designate them terrorist organizations. He’s going to wipe them off the face of the earth. They’ve killed over a quarter million Americans just from the fentanyl they’re driving in. Plus they sex traffic women and children. They move aliens at record numbers. We had 2. 2 million gotaways.

They’re a, they’re an extreme national security threat. And President Trump’s. He’s going to destroy it because Mexico has failed to do it, or Mexico doesn’t want to do it.

Gene Valentino: What’s your take on what the real intention of the Biden Harris administration has been over the last three and three quarter years?

Why would something so obvious in your face being so wrong Bees and be so obvious to you and the rest of the nation be allowed by this administration to, to continue to foster. I, my only comment is it must be intentional on their part for them to [00:06:00] destroy this nation. Your comment.

Tom Homan: You’re absolutely right.

Look what they did to the border. It’s not, it’s not mismanagement. It’s not incompetence. This is by design. You got to remember. When Joe Biden was running for president against Trump, I wrote an op ed six months before the election day. I posted on foxnews. com. I said, if Joe Biden becomes president, we lose the border based on what he, the promises, you know, making during the campaign.

You got to give him credit. He kept his promise. You know, he wanted to, he wanted to end ICE detention. He wanted to, you know, re imagine ICE. He wanted to put a more torment deportations. He wanted to give pre health care. He wanted an amnesty. When you offer those type of promises to the entire world, they’re going to come to the greatest nation on earth and that’s what will happen.

But I, I say this all the time. I’ve worked for six presidents. I started in Borbato in 1984. So I, I worked for six presidents, Stuart Murano, Reagan up to Donald Trump. And every president I have worked for, including Obama and Clinton, They [00:07:00] took steps to secure the border because they understood this country can’t have strong national security if we don’t have border security.

You got to know what’s coming, who’s coming, where it’s coming, and why it’s coming, and all those questions need to be answered. And every president took steps to secure the border. No one did more than President Trump. His success was unprecedented, 45 year low in illegal immigration, illegal immigration down almost 90 percent, depending on what time frame you looked at.

Joe Biden’s the first president in the history of this nation who came into office and unsecured a border on purpose. He inherited the most secure border in my lifetime. I’ve done this a long time. But Tom, Tom, the motive. Everybody asks me, why would he unsecure the border? Well, obviously they perceive our future political benefit from doing it.

You know, I think that part of them is they think these are future Democratic voters someday. But they don’t even have to get to there because when he signed 94 executive orders demolishing everything we created that gave us the most secure border. He also overturned the Trump census rule. Which means these millions of people being released in the sanctuary cities in this country will be counted in the next [00:08:00] census, which is going to result in what more seats in the house for the Democrats, they sold the safety and security of this nation out for future political power.

In my opinion, that’s treasonous.

Gene Valentino: And there you have a California governor and the legislature buying into the notion that these same people coming in over the border. can vote without any proof of citizenship or an ID. Just let them in to vote. I don’t understand it, Tom. Everything that our nation has worked so hard for over these years, it seems to be, has been, I believe it’s changing, but has been like sand slipping through our fingers.

We, we, why would they intentionally allow it? This to me is criminal at this point. You don’t, you don’t go down this path so far. Might it be said, if I can be so bold, that your first arrest should be against. The former president at the time and vice president of the United States Biden and Harris for the [00:09:00] treasonous acts they caused and allowing this to go so far.

I don’t understand how they get away with this and, and think that it’s okay with a nation staring with social media and all the media outlets that are out there that are good showing to the public firsthand a total wrongdoing, a perpetration of fraud against the American citizens. What do you think?

What do you say?

Tom Homan: Well, I’m with you. I think what they’ve done is treasonous. Absolutely. And look, not, we had several federal judges who looked at this board through various losses. At least two of them has said that this administration is not only ignoring the law. They’re actively violating the law.

The law clearly says under federal statute, title eight United States code that when you enter United States or we grew up without proper documentation, you shall be detained. Not maybe, not think about it, not release, shell. And they’ve done, and they’re not doing that. They’re releasing people by the thousand in this country [00:10:00] every day.

And they’re going to put them in a hotel room at 500 bucks a night. Well, we have empty ice beds. Empty, already paid for by the taxpayers sitting empty at about 117 a night. So why are, why would they not use the detention beds? Why are they releasing them and putting them in a hotel room? Because there’s one answer to that.

And they know this. The secretary of my office knows this. When they’re in detention. They see a judge within 40 days on average 40. So I’m in 40 days nine out of 10 These people get an order removal because they simply don’t qualify for asylum. They’ll be sent home However, if they’re not detained they’re put on the non detained docket It’s going to take five to seven years to get to the case because there’s so there’s millions of them Inside five to seven years.

They’ve got usc kids. They’ve built equities And, you know, then, then, then no one wants to remove him. I mean, a lot of people don’t want to remove him. When I was a police director, I got a call from Republican senators saying, Why’d you remove that guy? He has two U. S. C. kids. And my response to him was, well, he didn’t have two U.

1. C. kids when he entered his country illegally. He didn’t have two U. S. C. kids when he was ordered to [00:11:00] move. But because he hid out long enough, he has two U. S. C. kids now. He’s immune. He should go to the embassy. Because if that, if the fact is, after the due process, that great taxpayer expense where a federal judge says he must go home, If that court order doesn’t mean anything then what the hell are we doing shut down the immigration court?

If the decisions don’t mean anything take the border patrol off the border because now there’s no consequence No, this is this is by design. They flooded the system. They’re not detaining him It’s going to take five seven if you’re in new york, maybe as many as nine years to build equities And by then, if Democrats take control of the House again, now you got 20 million people going to get amnesty?

Look, this is, this is their design. They overwhelmed the system. They broke the system. Let’s remember that. Kamala Harris keeps saying, you know, she’s going to fix it and Trump tried to hold it back in the Senate. I don’t know. Listen and remember, they broke it. They inherited the most secure border in my lifetime, and they intentionally unsecured it and broke it.

Now she wants to fix [00:12:00] what she broke? I don’t believe her. She’s going to continue to open borders. She gets re elected. I have all the confidence in the world. Trump’s going to come in power. We’re going to take, we’re going to secure that border once again, and we’re going to be a nation of walls once again.

Gene Valentino: Amen. You know, it’s funny you say it that way. She keeps talking about a bipartisan border bill that Trump allegedly killed. I think you’ll agree with me. Trump never killed a bill that was bipartisan. He killed a bill that was hurtful to this nation. What was the number? 2, 000 to 5, 000? allowed per day. 15 1.

5 million illegal immigrants coming in a year before this bill would be triggered to do something about it. There were still in invading this nation under that bill. This was not a deterrence. In fact, if anything, it took funding of ice agents and the new ones they intended to hire. To process them coming in.

[00:13:00] I didn’t see them as deterrence at the border. Am I correct on that?

Tom Homan: Yeah, you know, first of all, it’s, it’s, it’s four to 5, 000 a day, which is anywhere from 1. 5 million to 1. 8 million. So you’re going to tell me it’s okay for 1. to enter this country illegally every year before you take action? Yeah, exactly.

It should be one. It should be one. And, and, and, and what, what the red line in that bill, which was a killer for me right from the start. Was that they said okay the four to five thousand day then we take some action, right? But they did a carve out on that bill If anybody actually read the entire bill, where children weren’t going to be counted.

We got a half a million children that have been smuggled into this country by criminal cartels. Who knows what happened to them during that journey. Now they can’t find 300, 000 of them. And there’s a carve out in the bill that children weren’t even going to be counted in the overall number. Which tells the cartels, keep moving children because you’re not going to be held accountable for this.

And, and President Trump didn’t have to kill the bill. I don’t know if he even killed the bill. He killed it. You don’t kill a bill that never would have passed. Eight [00:14:00] Democrats voted against the bill, not a single Republican. Here’s what they did. They knew after three and a half years, they didn’t do a thing to slow the flow, didn’t do anything to secure the border.

Then they looked at the polls. So this is a big issue for us. So let’s write a bill that we know won’t pass. Then we can blame the Republicans for shutting down border legislation. I want to remind American people that H. R. 2 passed the House long before the Senate bill. That’s right. If H. R. 2 would have secured the border, why do I know that?

Because a lot of Trump’s policies we proved work. So why would we ever negotiate against something proven success, right? But Chuck Schumer wouldn’t put it on the floor for discussion. He wouldn’t put it on the floor for debate. So the White House and Chuck Schumer are actually the ones that shut down legislation that should secure the border on H.

2. 2. And why did Chuck Schumer do that? He got he got a moron like Senator Lankford who fell for the trap He fell for this and I told Senator Lankford through a phone call He called me to explain the bill wanted my support. I said your bill is terrible [00:15:00] I’m not going to support this bill. As a U. S.

Senator, why don’t you force Chuck Schumer to put H. R. 2 on the floor, which we know would have worked, Senator. So, you know, he fell for the trap and it’s a shame because he gave them a talking point that it just, it just misleads American people what the truth is.

Gene Valentino: Folks, we’re talking with Tom Homan, former acting ICE director under the Donald Trump administration.

Hopefully he will return to the Trump administration if called upon to serve in that capacity. I couldn’t think of a better person helping us get back to that border. You know, Tom, they, they They had an airlift plan in place that was, is underway in taking illegal aliens. I’ll use the word aliens from the Mexican side into the American side by airlift.

And some, some folks in my circle suggest that we do the same just to expedite the process, airlift the heck out of all of them back into the further outreaches of [00:16:00] Mexico, not just over the line on the border. And oh, by the way, make sure we have immigration judges on those planes while they’re heading back over the border as well to adjudicate these cases.

It seems to be one of many strategies that are likely to be employed. In the removal, the extrication of so many illegals here in the states, but clearly you must have a plan. It is, it must involve the military. It can’t be ice alone. Yes. No.

Tom Homan: Well, look, the DOD has assisted just about every administration on the board and we need to help.

You know, we got a lot of people that we got to go look for, especially public safety threats, national security threats. So my thoughts are that you take the jobs that don’t require a badge and a gun and immigration enforcement authority. Put those guys on the street, so all the jobs they do that don’t require a badge, gut, and immigration authority, such as, you know, processing, feeding, carrying, transportation, all that stuff can be done by somebody else, and DOD would be a, you know, [00:17:00] a perfect partner to do that.

They have air assets, they have, they’ve got ground assets, and what I like about DOD, they’re really good at not only acquisition of getting these fast contracts, they’re also good at, you know, Supply chain management. They move equipment all over the world, right? And we need to, we need some really smart people and come in and say, okay, so how do we get these people from all the country?

What’s the most efficient way to get them to a bus, the bus to an airstrip? I don’t know, how do we plan that? You know, FedEx is really good at it. You know, Amazon is really good at it. DOD is really good at it. They move products all around this world. Equipment, military equipment, ammunition, and personnel.

So I would like to have DOD help us create the efficiencies on transportation contracts to move people quickly. And more efficiently and save us money. So, you know, the DOD, I certainly should help because this is a national security issue. I think this is the biggest national security failure we’ve seen, at least since 9 11.

And it’d be right in DOD’s wheelhouse to help [00:18:00] us do this.

Gene Valentino: Tom, this is a quick hit for you today to get the word out. I can only imagine as we get closer to election day, you’re going to be getting even busier. I thank you for this time today. In the next three minutes, hit us with the hit the nation with your, your hot points.

If you could have it perfectly your way after Donald Trump is elected and presuming you’re on board with the next president. What’s your action plan? Or can you talk about it?

Tom Homan: We’re going to secure the border right away. We have to do that. We got to stop the bleeding. And then we’re going to do an internal enforcement operation based on, again, criminal threats, national security threats first.

Here’s what people need to understand. I don’t care what your opinion is on illegal immigration, but when you cause a crisis that this big that overwhelms the Border Patrol, where the vast majority of Border Patrol agents are no longer on patrol, They’re processing, they’re making sandwiches, they’re making, they’re making baby formula, they’re making hospital runs.

When you take [00:19:00] 70 percent of the border patrol off the border, and in some areas, all of them, that’s when the cartels move the fentanyl, that killed a quarter million Americans. That’s where the 600 percent increase in sex trafficking happened. That’s where the people that want to come to this country to do us harm are going to cross.

There are 2. 2 million known gatos. We know for a fact, based on video drone traffic and censored traffic, 2. 2 million people. chose to pay more to the cartels to get away. Why did 2. 2 million people pay more to get away? Why didn’t they want a free airline ticket? Why didn’t they want a free hotel room, three meals a day and healthcare?

Why? Because they didn’t want to be vetted. They didn’t want to be fingerprinted. This is the biggest national security vulnerability. And even the FBI director, who I don’t respect. Even he says, more red flags now than ever before. And he says the southwest border is a gateway for terrorism. You need to understand, people need to vote for President Trump.

Because he will secure the border. And protect our national security. Something is coming. Border Patrol is arresting [00:20:00] people. Just shy of 400 people on terrorist watch list. That came from a country that sponsored terror. We got gotaways. If you don’t think a single one of them came from a country sponsoring terror, then you’re a moron.

We know terrorists have crossed this border. We know terrorists are here and something is coming. And when that something comes, I want President Trump to be in the White House. This is how serious this is. Forget about the immigration issue. This is a national security issue. And everybody, Republican, Democrat, Independence, we all should be on the same page.

Yeah, I’m glad you

Gene Valentino: made that distinction. We do have a national security issue, which preempts all this. We, we need Congress to get their act together and get a solid immigration policy in place that really is solid. Maybe it’s a new amendment to our constitution with a Republican house and a Republican Senate and a Republican president, maybe that can happen.

But the fact of the matter is the national security issue, the border issue itself. comes first. [00:21:00] I’m stunned with the number of Children that are now got part of the gotaways that are going on unreported, undocumented, unvetted and the threat by the cartels having pushed them into child trafficking and all kinds of illicit operate involvements that they didn’t choose to be part of.

I consider this a military response. You have a lot of people. around you, sir, that either like you or they hate you. But I gotta tell you, they all respect you. Your leadership style is exactly what’s needed during this time of need during this crisis. And I’m concerned that you have enough resources at your disposal when called upon to move immediately, literally overnight.

to do an enema on this thing. I don’t know how you get this number of illegal, these illegals, back out of the country so quickly, but I’m sure it’s a tiered or staged process of the worst, [00:22:00] the worst part of the crisis, the next worst, the next worst, and so forth. That plan, whatever it is, I want you to know there’s a lot of patriots Around you who respect you and know that you’re working your darndest to try to Stage for that right now.

So thank you again for your your your willingness to come on our GrassRoots TruthCast show and and Make your point any final point you want to make

Tom Homan: no, I’ll just say for the people who don’t like me. Thank you I like getting living your heads rent free. That’s kind of cool. That’s cool I really truly believe that they saw the tragedies that i’ve seen in 34 years When they talk to girls younger than seven year olds have been raped by the cartels numerous times.

When you, when you stay in the back of a tractor trailer surrounded by nineteen dead people who beg to die. When you do the investigations that I’ve done, where you lose sleep and, and, and it just changed who you are because of the tragedy you saw, you’d understand me. You might not like me, but you’d understand me.

But you’re [00:23:00] never going to cancel me, you’re never going to shut me up. You know why? Because I don’t care what people think about me. I want to do the right thing. As long as my family is safe. Respects me and my Lord and Savior respects me. No, I’m doing the right thing. Tom Holman has spent 34 years trying to save lives, save lives.

President Trump saved life by a thousand by securing that border. And we’re going to continue to save lives. Hate me, love me, doesn’t matter.

Gene Valentino: Tom Holman. There’s a lot of Patriots out there who would like to work with you. If they wanted to reach out to get to you, how did they get to you? Through, do you have a website or anything?

Tom Homan: Yeah, I got it. You know, they can go to this. They can go to homelandstrategicconsulting. com. There’s a website there. And look. When president trump takes power, we’re going to be looking for a lot of people to help us. That’s what I mean Yeah, there’ll be some major announcements of bringing back retired cops bring back retired Isaac’s and border agents if you weren’t a law enforcement officer, we look for volunteers.

I’ll process look We’re going to need this nation to come together Because we’re going to do things the right way. When we do the deportation operation, it’s not going to be massive sweeps and [00:24:00] I hear this language from the left about concentration camps and sweeps and you know, and destroying families.

No. It’s going to be a well planned, professional operation based on prioritization of the worst of the worst first. And so we’re going to keep the support of the American people. The vast majority of American people want to see this happen. We’re going to do it in a humane way. A professional way that people are not going to argue with.

Gene Valentino: Tom, there’s a lot of people, retired cops and ICE agents who are friends of mine, and they said to me firsthand, Hey, you let me know when Tom’s back on. I’m, I’m rejoining. I’m re upping. They said, I said, well, stay tuned. It’s coming. And I’m glad you’re here.

Tom Homan: I’ll welcome them with open arms. I think law enforcement, whether it’s federal state or local, some of the finest American patriots this world has.

We’d love to have him talk about it.

Gene Valentino: And God, God willing we won’t be talking about defunding police or ICE. We’ll be talking about upping refunding the police and the ICE network, not to mention our defense in [00:25:00] general to re secure the border Tom’s been talking about today. Thank you, Tom Homan, Tom Homan.

Former acting ice director under our 45th president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, soon to be our 47th president of the United States. That’s a good cap for a good day. He’s wearing Tom, thank you for joining us today. I really appreciate it. Got

Tom Homan: it. Thanks for having me, me

Gene Valentino: and thank you ladies and gentlemen for another episode of The GrassRoots Truth Cast.

I’ve said it often enough. GrassRoots Truth Cast with Tom Holman former Acting Ice Director. See you again soon for another exciting episode on the GrassRoots Truth Cast. Take care

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