A Veteran Care System

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With breaking news and political commentary from a public servant, serial entrepreneur, community leader, philanthropist, and American patriot, and a darn nice guy, it’s time for the GrassRoots TruthCast, and your host, Gene Valentino.

Gene Valentino: Hi friends, Gene Valentino, and welcome back to another episode of Gene Valentino’s GrassRoots Truth Guest. You know, as we come to the end of the year and in the spirit of reflection comes gratitude. We see in our hearts and our souls a lot of which we’ve been distressed with over the last, let’s say, four years, but we also come to realize how much we should be grateful for.

I’ll As well. It’s [00:01:00] amazing how our constitutional republic, our democracy that runs our constitutional republic has survived the stresses and torment of adversarial positions that have tried to take down this nation. And when you take a hard look at some of the areas that have been impacted, one of them is our military and more specifically our veterans.

I’d like to, at the end of the year, have a reflection moment on the veterans of the United States military services of this nation. We have often taken them for granted. We have, I reflect back myself to the early days of the Vietnam era, when our military men and women came out, came off those planes, and were spat upon by the likes of the Jane Fondas throughout the nation, disregarding our men and women.

It was probably the darker day and probably something we should be very [00:02:00] concerned with in terms of the way we treat our veterans and the way we look to the future about how we plan to protect this nation. And before we do any more benevolence to the rest of the world around us, we best take a look at those men and women who have sacrificed their lives for us, died for us, and lost limb for for us.

And today I’m concerned about their wellness in terms of suicide, the suicide prevention issues. We’re going to do a deep dive with VetCV, a founder Neal’s Anderson and a co partner with the group Mr. John resin. We’re going to have them on in a minute to do a deep dive on what we can focus on for the United States veteran.

I’m looking forward to being your next you at the United States congressman as well in the weeks ahead in a special election. for Matt Gates’s seat here in the [00:03:00] Panhandle of Florida, United States Congress District seat number one. And when I get in there, I’m taking a moment now with John and Neils to do a deep dive on the veterans.

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Hey friends, welcome back to the GrassRoots TruthCast my guests today, Niels Anderson and on screen with us as John resin. Niels, I’m going to cut to the chase. Let’s talk in the next 30 minutes about the veteran, you and John, and let’s do a deep dive on VetCV what you guys are all about, where you’re going to help take care of our veterans.

Niels, let’s start with you.

Niels Anderson: Okay. Well, you know, it’s interesting. You mentioned that you’re running and we know that you’re running for Matt Gates’s seat. And his predecessor was Jeff Miller. And as you know, and when he was named chairman of the VA committee and on, in, on the Hill that’s when I started to learn about all the problems, [00:05:00] the trials, tribulations of our nation’s veterans.

And their families and in the beginning, it was about the, there was a million appointment backlog for someone to get their C and P exam, which is their compensation and pension. Just imagine that how long you have to wait before, you know, you can pay your mortgage and, you know, and get your disability or get the ramp made or get your kitchen counters squared away because you’re in a wheelchair, whatever it may be.

And then on top of it, the long, long wait times in VA at the time. And what I heard was that the veteran was having trouble being able to manage and track all the documentation they needed to be able to have to get all this stuff squared away. And so that’s where the idea of that CV came about and now it’s really evolved into, it’s, it’s free platform for our veterans and their families to manage their life record.

You know, what’s next, right? [00:06:00] A curriculum vitae in Latin means life record, actually, if you translate it. But then inside of that. One of the tall poles in our tent is what we’re doing to try to help prevent and predict suicide, which is, you know, Jean is a very big problem in our nations in our nation.

Yeah. About 22, we don’t know if it’s 17 or 32 or 22, but there are a lot of veterans who die every day and veterans. Represent suicide. Veteran suicide represents about 15 to 16 percent of everyone who dies by suicide every day. Yet we’re only one and a half percent of the population. So imagine today’s Friday on Monday, there’d be a pile of 40 or 50 people that died by suicide.

If you would just imagine that in your head

Gene Valentino: this morning, I was on another broadcast and one of the military experts was talking, speaking specifically to the fact [00:07:00] that since the Donald Trump had won the election, anticipating the enthusiasm and excitement of his return to office in the inauguration on January 20th, that That there has been a a, a transformation of thinking that there’s an excitement and exuberance.

Enthusiastic new people looking to enlist or re enlist into the military that were otherwise driven from it with despair and demoralization over where the Biden administration specifically, not to mention Obama, but, but more recently, the Biden administration recently had demoralized so many of our veterans yielding to this veteran this suicide issue.

That we’re talking about now begs the point that, and they were saying you’re, you’re all right. Your number’s close 20 to 22 vets per day committing suicide nationwide is obscene. [00:08:00] Welcome aboard John Breslin, retired captain with the service core. He’s he’s focusing with Neils on the healthcare administration issues and suicide prevention.

John, introduce yourself and tell us more about your role with a vet CV and where. Where we’re going to refortify the veterans and give them some care they need.

John Rezen: Thank you. Yes. My name’s John Risen, very excited about working on this. We found that veterans need help, right? And I think there’s probably three areas we’re going to work where we want to help with one is gaps in care.

Yeah, you know, we find here over and over veterans have gone to a hospital or tried to get into a hospital. They can’t get in. They can’t get a physician or or they don’t know what the next step in their care looks like. So we have systems in place to address gaps in care. And that’s about value stream mapping.

It’s about care plans and so forth. The second element that we look at is really. the full person. We talk about veteran suicide. Most of health care is not about medicine. It’s about environmental [00:09:00] factors, social factors. It’s about behavioral factors. And we expect to take the veteran support from just medical care to a full person picture, develop care plans that we, and then, you know, VET CV will have a system for giving the veterans a voice as well as reporting that voice to the proper people to make sure those care plans are completed.

And I think the final element of this is is really about efficiency. It’s about efficiency and effectiveness in the process. And we have all sorts of lean tools through VetCV and two other Brad and other partner of ours who know how to really work through claims to really create efficiency in the process.

And what we expect to do is take that efficiency and take the money saved through that efficiency and apply it to the care of the patients. And so we hope to be able to expect to be able to fund this to the, a better, a better, more efficient government.

Gene Valentino: Well, that’s the key word to me, John, is, are we talking about a system that’s innovative and [00:10:00] new to the VA system, or are you talking about amplifying that which is already there that needs some nurturing Neils, would you, would you address that first?

Because From a vet CVS point of view, I’m trying to figure out what part of this elephant are you going to eat first? I mean, there is such a plethora of veteran care needs out there. I entered the game about 14 years ago with, as you said earlier with Congressman Jeff Miller getting this veterans hospital off the ground here in the Pensacola area, smack dab between Jacksonville and.

Beluxi in Orlando, but, but, but it was an outpatient care system. It really wasn’t what I’d call full 24 7 care with needed technology on site with the diagnostics for immediate diagnosis and access and assessment. It was just an outpatient medical care facility. And that’s what it is today.

And there it’s backed up and they’re, they’re overloaded. [00:11:00] You’ve got doctors working 12, 14 hour days. It’s, it’s part of that demoralization of the veteran that John was just talking about, Niels, that has led leads to these suicide concerns. Your take Niels on where VET CV comes into the picture to help it again.

Is the vet, is this what John is saying? Is this a new program? Or a a, a, a curing or amplification, a remedy update, if you will, of the existing care system in the VA.

Niels Anderson: Well, the first question you asked was how do you, you know, how do you eat an elephant and and the obvious answer is one bite at a time, but I would also recommend not starting in the hind quarter, but starting at an ear where you can actually start eating it, you know, if you have to, but it has to start somewhere, right?

Okay. And that’s where I think we are trying to help solve, solve that issue by giving the control and like John said, [00:12:00] the voice for veterans to be able to manage and track what’s going on in their lives. And then we can serve up. And when we detect that there’s something that someone needs, we can serve up that resource.

We also have many of the biggest health systems in the United States using one of our other software solutions and they’re use it to recruit physicians. And so if we’re recruiting physicians, every new physician that comes in to the marketplace needs to stand up their practice as fast as possible.

That means they need patients. So we can, when we detect that someone needs. a doctor. We currently have about 223, 000 doctors in that network. We can tell our veterans and their families where that doctor is and get access, make an appointment and those kinds of things, but also inside the VA. Talk about efficiency.

There are a lot of fantastic people inside VA that want to make a difference and want to do it right. The only thing people [00:13:00] talk about in the media, the bad news, right? Cause that’s what gets the attention, the squeaky wheel philosophy of things. But there are a lot of people who want to do things and, and to your point Jean, as it relates to the efficiency and what John was talking about, I think we have an opportunity here.

to help identify where those inefficiencies are. And then also, you know, when you, when a patient comes into a system, they’re tracked inside their EMR or their EHR, right? But with us, we can, we can start tracking and educating and influencing in a positive way and, you know, helping them before they get.

Sick to get the the services they need. And then the continuity of care once they get discharged so that we can continue to educate them about nutrition and John what

Gene Valentino: Neal’s just said, John, jump in on that because I’d like the people to understand how you plug into what he just said.

John Rezen: Yeah, so [00:14:00] this is, I would say, just to answer your question, this isn’t like Bill starting over.

This is, this is identify, recognizing problems and fixing problems. And it’s about creating a lean well operating system. And, and the VA isn’t the only, only group with this problem. A lot of, a lot of different structures have the same issue, but I would say the, the second element of this is really where healthcare is going in this country.

It’s going from. from that, just that medical visit or that admission to a much fuller picture of that patient’s needs. And just like Neil was saying, it’s when that patient is discharged, there needs to be a plan of care for that patient. And that plan of care isn’t just another medical visit. It’s all the series of services that have to take place.

And that CV. Would be the, the veterans tool to make sure those things happen. If they don’t happen, the veteran has a voice to say, Hey to hold the system accountable to make sure those services are being met. Does that,

Gene Valentino: yes, it does. And, but so we have a very [00:15:00] welcome to government. Why? Why do with 3 what you can do with 10?

You know, the, the, the concern, the concern I have is your system, your platform, your service is hopefully saving the taxpayers money, right?

John Rezen: That, that, that’s the intent. And there’s two ways. How do you do?

Gene Valentino: Yeah. How do you do that?

John Rezen: One is just creating efficiencies in the system. And, and again, Brad isn’t on today, but he has numerous ways to actually makes the claims management process much more efficient.

Just reducing duplication. And we talk about value stream management. It’s all about understanding what services you provide, actually add value. Eliminating those that don’t add value and that’s that’s really mean management in a system. So that’s one that’s one approach The second approach is really the longer term approach by keeping patients healthy If we keep those veterans healthy, we avoid admissions and you know on the civilian [00:16:00] side of every admission costs about twenty three thousand dollars And so it’s probably the same for the veterans.

And so every admission we prevent That means we kept the patient healthy, but also we reduced the cost of health care. And that’s really the long term play here, is to keep the veterans healthy, so they need fewer services because they’re living healthier more active lives.

Gene Valentino: Bingo. You know, what you just said there, this is why I’m running for office.

We are here in the panhandle have such a propensity for existing active military and retired military. It got a community going across a few hundred miles of the panhandle, which is basically fixed income. And you can’t be messing around with a system with lack of definition or clarity of the services that are being delivered.

Do you gentlemen feel, and you, this is up for grabs for either of you. Do you, where do you, where’s your stand? Do you believe that Donald Trump has an innovative approach [00:17:00] in saying you take your TRICARE and your VA services? I remember the comment you can pick your own doctor that came out of Obamacare and it was a failure.

But in this environment, can the veteran go to the private sector of healthcare and seek a private physician, if he or she chooses, and and take that path for care? Or are you proposing a system that basically stays within an, a, a, a specific channel of VA care?

Niels Anderson: John, if you don’t mind, I’ll start with that and you could wrap it up if that’s okay, but just to give you some background Humana Military does about two thirds of all TRICARE claims and we’re a partner with, we were a partner with them many years ago and something called resource sharing, and that is to you know, manage the care for the military and dependents.

That need to go downtown or see [00:18:00] civilian, civilian doctors. That model was something that the VA wanted to do. And we won that contract. We’re the first tier sub to Humana for that. And we did something in six of the 21 visions and we built a network. of 46, 000 providers. They’re very similar to TRICARE, but the coordination of care was what made a difference where Humana and their efforts and it’s them that led this charge.

We’re just a first tier sub but saved the VA 200 million dollars.

Gene Valentino: Reduce the Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You saved the VA 200 million dollars?

Niels Anderson: Just because the VA would go out and negotiate a contract with, say, with the orthopedic surgeons or the hospitals, the local VA would, but they had no leverage.

They didn’t know what they should be asking for in a way of cost. So, but Humana does, they do this all day long, every day for millions of record you know, beneficiaries and, and their constituents. And so, Immediately that happened. The other thing [00:19:00] that they achieved was they reduced the no show rate by 15 percent to

Gene Valentino: 5%.

Imagine what that patient, the patient feeling motivated to get in there and get care as a pair, as opposed to being demoralized, dejected, and saying, I’m never going to go through this system. I’ll never get care. So I’m not even showing up.

Niels Anderson: Exactly. And what maybe my issue was the knee, but now I’ve been sitting, you know, on the couch for a year.

And now I have lung problems too, right? Or other mobility problems. So it just get manifests itself into being bigger and bigger problems, but that station project turned into what’s VA choice and the point that, you know, John was talking about the Brad isn’t here, but Brad is an expert in Tricare. And VA claims processing.

And the reason we put this together goes to your point Jean, from the very beginning is that when we heard that DOJ was happening, it’s like, I talked, I called Brad [00:20:00] immediately and I called John and Dr. Mark Goto, who’s not here either. He’s. The MD on this side, on our team former Navy captain, and said, listen, Brad, do you think we can maybe find several millions of dollars in in inefficiencies in the TRICARE processing and and VA processing system?

And the answer was yes. So that’s why we formulated this team, the strategic team of trans, trans, you know, of efficiency, so to speak to see if we can’t help. DC and Doge or whoever with absolute inside information about how the process works to go find some millions of dollars here and there and this and you know, quickly, I think you’re

Gene Valentino: muted.

Sorry about that. Yeah. To me. You have a situation where government is relying on the private sector again [00:21:00] to solve its bureaucratic problem. It has, it isn’t the first time this has revealed itself. In fact, it’s revealed itself in many aspects of government. But I commend you for trying to make the right decision.

An impact. When you said the 200 million savings before Neal’s, was that in Florida alone or was that part of a nationwide effort?

Niels Anderson: So the, the United States for the VA is broken up to, into visions. Yeah. And I believe there’s 21 of them. And, and we, our demonstration project was for six of those visions, I think it was six.

So it was, it was just those markets. And just in those markets where we expected about 600,000 claims a month to be processed the reason that hu, we didn’t Humana did not rebid as the incumbent, which they would’ve likely won. At the time was because we’re getting less than 10 percent of the volume at the time, but the places [00:22:00] that were doing it, we’re doing it really, really well.

And even in those places, a small percentage, obviously 10 percent of what we thought was going to happen is what we focused on. And even with that, it was still 200 million. And I also want to add that, you know, VA they’re, they’re working their blutimus maximus is off to try to get more providers in place to be able to see patients.

They don’t, they shouldn’t be sent downtown or to the civilian doctors if they can be taken care of at the VMAC or the CBOC.

Gene Valentino: Obviously, right? I hope to be your congressman soon and I’ll tell you the way I feel. I don’t care. I don’t care if it’s within the strict confines of a VA system or a broadened approach to let the private sector doctors be more available at the ready for the vets.

I’m assuming there’s a certain minimum level of care if you’re a doctor in the first place. So I’m, I’m, I’m counting on. The medical system in general, whether it’s [00:23:00] within government or the public sector to be delivering the same level of care that the so I don’t care. Are you? I’m looking to experts like yourself to tell me how to move the mountain in the transformation of regulation.

And how do I? Find folks like you to come now. Do we chisel away at specific savings on a Location by location va district around the nation or is this some sort of in your opinion john? I’ll throw it at you first Or is this in your opinion? Something that’s ought to be legislative And statutory nationwide in some sort of global global policy.

What say you?

John Rezen: I think, I think it’s I think you have to, we have to prove our effectiveness. And I would say the process for doing that is start in a few places, offer set, and, and the, the, this does require legislation. It has to be quality standards. There has to be standards set. for every, for every VA institution on the care of [00:24:00] the patients.

Second thing, we have to give those patients a voice, right? We have to empower those patients and give them a voice and those standards aren’t being met. And then empower them and hold ourselves accountable to make sure those needs are met. And then finally, Institute a pro competitive environment, you know, create, create innovation.

And just like you said, it doesn’t really matter who does it just has to be done well. And so by, by creating that pressure to meet those standards, then, you know, civilian sector, the VA can be very innovative to meet those standards and then the best system will win.

Gene Valentino: Well, I don’t have a problem with the private sector coming in to help solve the problem.

That’s what VET CV is doing. That’s what you guys are doing. As an elected official, I’m going to say, but I can’t have 20 different VET CVs around the country working off different platforms of what they think the the, the, the savings approach should be. There’s got to be some sort of uniformity in the [00:25:00] approach.

To streamline the approach. I’m a civilian and I’m paying. All I know is the outside looking in the guy. I can gal. I represent are saying I want lower taxes and more services. So, this redundancy and this expenditure, this excessive cost to the taxpayer can be reduced through a plan you’re providing.

I’m sold. But how do you cookie cutter it in some sort of general delivery nationwide? You can’t have different, too many cooks in the kitchen. You’ve got too many different approaches to this thing in the different districts in the nation. What’s your approach in trying to get some sort of uniform spec in place for everybody to follow?

John Rezen: Yeah, so I would say, you know, the uniformity has to be in the standards set standards that everyone has to meet those quality standards, then let let the people in the in these different environments meet those standards, right? And so we want best practices. But you can’t have the [00:26:00] best practices by just saying, let’s follow this process.

You have best practices by letting people be innovative to develop a better way. And we can learn from those different groups and what they’re doing. And over time you develop that best practice and that’s why you standardize the process. You standardize it by learning, by learning from each other, developing the best practices, and then putting that best practice into place nationwide.

Gene Valentino: Yeah, I heard you say that earlier and just basically improving operations is a monster. That is the savings alone, John, that I think Neils was talking about. Folks, we’re talking with Neils Anderson and John Resin, two experts in cutting costs, saving streamlining operations, improving efficiency, and And most of all, caring for the vet and make sure him and his, he, him or her and the family around them are nurtured during a recovery process for that veteran in their time of need.

It’s happening through Neil’s group called VetCV [00:27:00] when did vet CV first start or get founded? Neils.

Niels Anderson: Well, we started thinking about it in 2013, and we went live with the platform in 2017 originally, and we’ve been titrating our growth organically as far as users on purpose because we want to make sure the systems work.

And it’s what people want. And so, and not, so it, the, the, the platform is one thing, but we’ve also created a network of over 4, 000 organizations around the country that provide services to veterans so that we can use our machine learning to be able to detect inside the system, something you didn’t know, you didn’t know you needed.

Because you don’t have anyone to talk to about it. There is, you know, you may not have a mentor. You may not have a group that you’re talking to. You may not know where to go. You may not know what to look for on Google, but we can help serve that up inside the platform. And then we just take it, we’re taking it to the next level with, with [00:28:00] the Johns and the brads and the marks of the world and developing the strategic side.

Because. To, to be able to imagine for a second to have a million people express their opinion about something so they can be heard. And we, we can do that through VET CV, right? And then you, yeah, go ahead. And I was just going to say, I mean, we, we, we will have a, a, our, our fingers on the carotid pulse of what’s going on with the veteran community.

To find out from the veteran and their families, what matters to them, and then share that information with people like you are like that officials and other organizations that we work with to help find out what they need, when they need it, and let’s go make that happen. We may be the only ones that detect it and then connect it to you.

And we don’t do it, but we just let you know. And then someone else. That does what they do in that lane can take it from there. Yeah. [00:29:00]

Gene Valentino: You know, to me, you’re, you’re touching on such advances in technology. I came out of a technology world myself, but not on your side. You’re, you, I hate to use the word, but is this AI driven?

Is this the new generation? I mean, do I get spooked and start wondering if you’re turning into a Samuel Bankman freed on me with the AI technology? What, what are you doing over there?

Niels Anderson: It’s a, well, so, you know, AI is. You know, everyone’s talking about it for the last year or whatever, right? As if it’s some crazy new thing, but we got started actually with the IHMC, the Institute for Machine Human Cognition and working with Julie Shepard there, as you know, and what they were doing in predictive analytics.

And we were, their early stages of what they were working on that we’re trying, we’re working with them on to implement in VET CV is the ability to predict the risk of suicide. And early on back in 13, we were [00:30:00] able to predict roughly the risk within two weeks. So if you’re able to predict that someone’s got a problem, right?

Then now the question is, well, so what do you do about it? And that’s where we come in too. We can say we can cause an effect. To let them know call your mom or hey, here’s this tip or here’s what what you should do or alert a network of very close Battle buddies and family members that somebody in your betcb network could use a call today, right or whatever it may be That’s what our our core mission is is to try to help people throughout the different chapters of their life.

Whatever it is This, this,

Gene Valentino: this is the surface story. This is the solution, but is it laced with a concern of a compromise in the HIPAA rules? I mean, is there data that you’re capturing that might compromise the veteran? And well, I take that back. I mean, how much of our HIPAA data has already been [00:31:00] compromised?

Niels Anderson: Exactly. So we, we, we have enough information. To where you have a personal health record, right? And that doesn’t, and you control that. You, there’s, we don’t hook to anything coming in and we don’t hook to anything going out. We don’t use, rent, share any data about our, our community, right? Or our subscribers.

We’re just trying to help them do more. And if they opt out of using any data, even de identified data to put in the data lake, so that we can have a an effect on our On a community and a country that’s fine too. You don’t have to participate. You control it all. Now, if you wanna say, Hey, I’m a 62-year-old male living in southeast United States and I happen to like cars then okay, that’s fine.

And maybe that has an impact, you know, on people being able to. Hey, you know, we need to get some deal with Ford or something for 62 year old males that like cars in the Southeast or females [00:32:00] that like cars in the Southeast so that we can get a deal and say, here’s 1, 000, bring this coupon after you do your final deal.

And maybe that makes you feel better. Maybe that can bring you, you will

Gene Valentino: always, you will always run up against the government saying to you, you are breaching. The security of privacy. And and, and the question is to what extent are you you can’t have it both ways, in my opinion. I mean, you’ve got to have some data in your hand.

If you plan on curing to in the old fashioned days, it was always the, the doctor patient relationship. And that’s where it stood and went no further unless the family member wanted it to, but in your case, you’re going to have to grab data that, that has, that has propriety that you’re going to need to use to direct your efforts on the solutions, John, to the veterans you’re trying to reach out to.[00:33:00]

John Rezen: John, you want to take that? Yeah. So, so, You know, if we take it to that next level where we’re actually gathering medical information there are HIPAA compliance standards that can be met and there, there’s high trust standards that can be met. I’m sure I’m sure Neal’s already addressed a few of those things.

So, that’s, it’s not a It’s not an impossible task to meet HIPAA standards. I mean, the, the technology wise, the difficulty is to make sure the people using the data doesn’t share it. Right. And that there’s a whole nother standard we can set up, you know, you have to have integrity in your organization and you have to have systems in place that recognize any sort of breach.

So those are all things that can be developed. You know, it’s, it’s HIPAA has been around for a long time now. And so those are a lot of that. We’ve been developed and you’ll see that when those, when those break breaches do occur they’re quickly recognized and it’s definitely not a technology problem.

It’s, it’s an individual problem.

Niels Anderson: Well, John, before we, I was just going to say, there’s a Latin term bonum non malus. That means good, [00:34:00] not evil. And that’s, that’s our core to our principles and how we go about doing everything. And so, to tie with what John is talking about, everything that we do is completely locked in and control.

That’s why it’s called the vault. And if you want to opt in and share something, because like you just talked about, Gene, if someone wants to show me their medical record, then they can show it to me, but we’re not going to go in and grab any information that will be used anywhere. Sure. Outside of our universe.

Gene Valentino: Well, and furthermore, I presume you’re, you’re under contract with the government or the government agency. That’s going to pinch you if you did. It’s so we don’t have any,

Niels Anderson: we’re completely civilian at this point. We will, we expect to do research and other things with, with government entities and civilian entities, all around mental health and prediction of suicide, and then what to do about.

Preventing it in the first place gentlemen in

Gene Valentino: the last two minutes. We have a john a lot I’d like you to [00:35:00] summarize what you’re doing with the vet cv and anything else and Then i’m going to let neil’s close on where you are now and where you’re going. Go ahead. John

John Rezen: Yeah, just to summarize, we, our objective is to meet the needs of our veterans and their families in health care.

And we do that three focus areas of focus is one is eliminate the gaps of care. Second is do a whole person or view management, you know, behavioral, social and so forth. And third is create much more efficiencies in the system.

Gene Valentino: Very good. And Neil’s your thoughts on where vet CV is going now.

Niels Anderson: Well, I think with, you know, the, the team that we’re talking about here, we’re getting into the next level of what we can do to help this country and our, our subscribers would not just a vault, but help them with. Getting access to care, reduce suicide [00:36:00] and just help them have a better life, including getting a great job with a great employer.

That’s how it’s, you know, VetCV is free, right? To the users. And how we make it free is we want corporate America to hire our nation’s veterans. There are so many people that are not planning and transitioning. Well, when I got out, for instance, they checked my hearing. Maybe they said, Hey, can you hear what I said?

Open your mouth. Let me look at your, your teeth. And can you see how many fingers I have? And that was it. Now they have taps, which is much better, but it’s still not ready. And so hiring veterans and getting a great job, how much stress does that take off of someone or their families? How much divorce is reduced?

How much better parenting is going to happen if you have a great job with a great employer?

Gene Valentino: Are you saying that vet CV makes its money off the placement of, of the veteran into the sector, any sector, private sector, [00:37:00] or are you saying that you’re making your money off a software platform designed for, for the veterans administration locally or nationwide, or are you making money off both?

Niels Anderson: We’re, we’re not. We’re not building anything to tie to the Veterans Administration specifically. If, if we understand there’s a problem like John is talking about and we uncover it, now we have the population to find out what they really need and then get them the care that they need and we can connect them to the VA resources in the right place at the right time or civilian resources that we have from, because we have hospital clients and physician clients all over the United States.

So we can help direct that care because we can detect the need for it that much sooner. Literally, we can, we can detect that need immediately and do something about it.

Gene Valentino: So how do you pay your bills? Who’s your customer?

Niels Anderson: So, well, so how we [00:38:00] want, we always want to have the platform free for our community, right?

We’re all veterans. And so we’re doing, we’re doing our next This is our next mission, right? For us. So how we make it possible to do that is we want corporate America to post jobs on our platform so that we can get it out to people who want a great job or you know, the next job. Right. And to do all the things that we just talked about.

And then we also have, we have a lot of non profit partners. We call them Patriot partners, right? But we also have for profit partners. And if those for profit partners have a product or service that they offer veterans, then we’re going to go, number one, we’ll vet them to make sure they’re not BS. Let’s be honest, right?

And taking advantage of people and then if they are, if they meet our qualifications, then we will negotiate some sort of a benefit to our community that they wouldn’t otherwise get. And then probably either in kind or for [00:39:00] or dollars. For us making that connection, right? So we make money, the veteran gets to save some, they get access to resources they otherwise wouldn’t be able to get access to.

And we’re able to grow and do more and more research. And the other last part is our continuing R and D on life stuff. That we need and then predicting of, of an a of, of of suicide and health needs and anything else in your life. And so we, we, when we go out and get grants, whether it’s nonprofit through our foundation or for through Vet cv, which is for profit then that’s another way we make money.

Gene Valentino: Well, so how does the veteran find out about you? How does anybody find out about you?

Niels Anderson: Well, so we, we, we push out to social media a lot and we also push out to via email, but Betsy v. com, we’ll get you started. If you want to contribute and donate to a great cause. That we do through our [00:40:00] foundation.

That’s the Betsy V foundation. And we’re, as a matter of fact, here in about 45 minutes, we’re giving some canine vests to the police department here in Pensacola for their dogs some, you know, Bulletproof vests and stabbing proof vests and things like that. And then we’re also raising money and we raised money from our dinner last month where we’re supporting the rest of the Maxwell respite center.

They have families and children that are homeless there and they have a veteran wing. So we’re proud to be able to give a big, big check to them through our foundation hopefully today or tomorrow or, or next week before Christmas.

Gene Valentino: This is wonderful. John Resin, Niels Anderson, I am so grateful to have you on.

You you came to me because I was out campaigning to become your next congressman, and what happened in this context is I went, holy schmoley, these guys are right up the same [00:41:00] alley I am, hitting this from a different side. The protection of the veteran which is to me a very high priority on my platforms for the concern here in the panhandle of Florida really doesn’t stop there.

It’s all veterans nationwide, but it’s, it’s veterans that are displaced, homeless, Suicidal and to the contrary, need to be gentrified, brought back into mainstreamed back into society. And I’m so proud of vet CV John resin and Neils Anderson for promoting this. I’m, I look for a pathway for you when I’m elected to see what I can do to help you help the VA.

Take this to a whole new level of as both of you have described I want to thank you for being here with us today gentlemen, and I want to thank you the citizens who have been watching this I hope you contact vet cv and learn a little bit more about how you can Help the veteran or if you are [00:42:00] a veteran how vet cv can help you In fact, these guys have got me running out to a visit as well.

And our Pensacola Veterans Administration, right after this broadcast, I’ll be meeting with patients and doctors and administration to get a better understanding of exactly what’s going on at the GrassRoots level. And that’s why we call it Gene Valentino’s GrassRoots TruthCast. Thank you for joining us here today on another episode of Gene Valentino’s GrassRoots TruthCast.

See you soon.

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